Health Unchained

Health Unchained

Health Unchained hosts conversations with blockchain/healthcare professionals who are disrupting the health industry.

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Ep. 64: Health Data Privacy Regulations – Vince Kuraitis and Deven McGraw

Deven McGraw , JD, MPH, LLM is the Chief Regulatory Officer at Ciitizen (and former official at OCR and ONC). Vince Kuraitis, JD/MBA is an independent healthcare strategy consultant with over 30 years’ experience across 150+ healthcare organizations. He blogs at Together, they have written a fantastic series called the Health Data Goldilocks Dilemma which sheds light on the many complex issues related to our ever-increasing demand for health data and privacy law. Ciitizen Website: Deven McGraw’s Medium: Vince’s website: Vince’s 143 Healthcare ICO list, last updated Oct. 2018: Show Notes •Introduction of Deven's and Vince's background •Journey into healthcare law, privacy standards, and current positions •Healthcare industry expectations during COVID19 pandemic •When did you first hear about blockchain? •Deven - Responsibilities at Ciitizen Health as Chief Regulatory Officer and vision as a company •Vince - Principal, blogger, and consulting work at Better Health Technologies •What is the government doing well to address the serious pandemic situation? •Contact tracing - Apple and Google Exposure notification API platform for public health organizations •Data privacy - Realistic technology expectations - HIPAA •Data Goldilocks concept •Unique privacy and security attributes of DLT •Deven- Ciitizen Scorecard? •What advice would you give larger EMR companies like Epic and Cerner? •Advice to healthcare regulators? •Deven - Ciitizen's investors include Andreessen Horowitz, Verily, and Intermountain healthcare •What do you disagree on? •Recommended resources - •Wrap-up and Final Takeaways News Corner In May, HashCash Consultants announces a plan to streamline the medical supply chain by forming a consortium of medical equipment suppliers, pharmaceuticals and medical goods manufacturers, distributors and other key players. Health Unchained Links Website: Telegram: Twitter: Disclaimer: Remember, the Health Unchained podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only and we are not providing any sort of legal, financial, or medical advice. Please do your own research and due diligence before making any important decisions related to these matters.
May 24, 2020

Ep. 63: Healthcare Smart Contracts with DAML – Corey Todaro (Digital Asset)

Corey Todaro is Senior Product manager at Digital Asset. Corey also spent a few years at Hashed Health, one of the earliest companies trying to bring blockchain tech to healthcare. We talked about the effects of COVID19 on the healthcare system, the development of DAML, and how healthcare stakeholders feel about all these new technologies. DAML is completely open-source programming language for writing distributed applications and the well supported SDK is available on Show Notes •Introduction of Corey's background in education and cultural/religious studies •Journey into technology, business, and healthcare in your career •COVID19 pandemic has revealed that the healthcare industry is over-optimized •When did you first hear about blockchain? •Experience at Hashed Health •Designing DLT solutions in the healthcare industry •DAML is an open source programming language for dapps •“DAML sits at a higher level of abstraction closer to the business layer than to the persistence layer (database/blockchain layer)” •DAML is blockchain protocol agnostic – it’s interoperable with multiple blockchains •Why is DAML unique compared to other smart contract programming languages? •Governance best practices that you've learned are prerequisites for network success •Healthcare Consortia •Structure of a good multi-party application deployment •What are the biggest misconceptions of blockchain when you speak with various healthcare executives? •FHIR and Consumer health data ecosystem •How can various healthcare stakeholders benefit from a decentralized ecosystem? (Patients, providers, payers, pharma, and research) •Industry Partners and customer traction - existing partners and pilot projects •Digital Asset is backed by large banks and institutions. Is there a consideration for the crypto communities who believe blockchain and cryptocurrency will end the big banks? •Can you describe the competitive and/or cooperative landscape? •What do you believe in that most people would disagree with? – “Religion is an artificial construct” •Favorite books: Map is not Territory by Jonathon Z. Smith; Where wizards stay up late by Katie Hafner; Contract theory by Patrick Bolton; Moonshine behind the Monster by Terry Gannon. •Have you changed your mind on anything recently and what made you change it? Corey thinks Decentralized Identity actually has some potential now •If you had to have micro chip implanted in your body, where would you want it to be implanted? Ears or Eyes •Coping with physical distancing measures •Wrap-up and Final Takeaways News Corner links On May 7th, Zoom announced its acquisition of Keybase to strengthen its security of the video communications platform. Keybase, which launched in 2014, has developed an encrypted social networking service that allows users to tie their identities to a user’s PGP key or other encryption keys. Health Unchained Links Website: Telegram: Twitter: Bert’s Blockchain and Healthcare Weekly Newsletter:
May 11, 2020

Ep. 62: Open Science Distributed – Sean Manion, PhD (CSO ConsenSys Health)

Dr. Sean Manion, Chief Scientific Officer at ConsenSys Health and founder of Science Distributed. He has BS in Biochemistry and PhD in Neuroscience. He served as Deputy Chief of Staff and later as Research Activities Chief as a federal civilian for the Defense and Veterans Brain Injury Center (DVBIC). Website: Blockchain for Medical Research Book: Show Notes •Journey into technology, science, and healthcare in your career •Progression of science in society •Co-authoring and Publishing Blockchain for Medical Research •Problems of Publish or Perish mentality and incentives •Vision for Science Distributed •Scaling science infinitely •The current state of Health Research in the world and US •What factors contributed to your pursuit and decision to become Chief Scientific Officer at ConsenSys Health? •Sean’s role and goals at ConsenSys Health •COVID-19 pandemic as a tipping point for the economy and healthcare •Virtual Hackathons and the rise in virtual work in society •Overview of Stop COVID-19 Hackathon by ConsenSys Health where Sean is a competition judge •The blockchain of science (proof of science) •Effects of pandemic on the stakeholders of science (Funders, Researchers, Publishers, End Users) •Using COVID-19 viral and antibody testing shortages as an example, why can blockchain help? •In what adoption sequence would you expect different stakeholders in science to buy-in to the integration of blockchain in health research? •Do you think progress in medicine has been slowing down? All of the discoveries of the the last ~50 - 60 years pale in comparison to those of the preceding 50 - 60 (antibiotics, basic hygiene, vaccinations, etc) •Focusing on federally funded medical research specifically, how would you rate our institutions' response to the COVID-19 crisis? •Data Privacy concerns and opportunities for blockchain •Favorite Scientist- American Philosopher Daniel Dennett •Favorite book - What Do You Do with an Idea? by Kobi Yamada •What are your thoughts about the technological singularity that is supposed to happen in 2045? •Final takeaways for the audience Health Unchained New Corner IBM has recently launched a network called Rapid Supplier Connect to link healthcare providers with medical equipment suppliers. "It typically takes about four to six weeks for buyers to vet and onboard new vendors or suppliers after they find each other", said Mark Treshock, IBM’s global blockchain solutions leader for healthcare and life sciences. "The goal is to have a range of trusted global suppliers on the blockchain network that can provide health-care organizations with about 15 types of medical equipment, including masks, ventilators, dialysis machines and oxygen masks. The vendors are vetted by the Worldwide Supply Chain Federation, Project N95 and others." Health Unchained Links Website: Telegram: Twitter: Bert’s Blockchain and Healthcare Weekly Newsletter:
April 26, 2020

Ep. 61: Decentralized Identity – Carsten Stocker, PhD (CEO Spherity)

Carsten Stocker, founder and CEO of Spherity, which is building a blockchain and cloud based identity solution. We talk about a variety of blockchain ecosystems related to self-sovereign identity and concepts like the digital twin. Spherity was founded in November 2017 and employs currently 12 people. His company is based in Berlin, Germany and were recently part of a government sponsored hackathon where they built a solution called E-receipt to digitally prove a patient’s identity when getting a prescription. Company Website: Show Notes •Introduction of Carsten's background in Germany •Journey into information technology, consulting, business and healthcare •When did you first hear about blockchain? •Ethereum and meeting Vitalik Buterin (Founder of Ethereum) •Blockchain adoption and awareness in healthcare developing globally and domestically •Blockchain in Germany and Europe - How has the Ministry of Health advanced digital health efforts? •WirVsVirus - Hackathon experience:, •e-Rezept: •Avoiding unneccessary brick-and-mortar clinical visits •Social Distancing effects on prescription fetching •Decentralized Identity Management - why is it so challenging? •Business development strategy: Focus on customers and companies that are technology literate, not wasting time •Pretty Good Privacy (PGP), pairwise pseudonymous identifier, and other digital privacy methodologies •Self-sovereign identity (SSI) •Digital Twin concept and the story of everything •Technology Stack: World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) standards, Ethereum, Sovrin and Hyperledger Indy •Dynamically defined supply chains •Open Software and Consumer health data ecosystems •Biggest blockchain misconceptions from healthcare executives •How can various stakeholders benefit by using your identity platform? •Data Privacy concerns and opportunities for blockchain •What are the failure points of your platform? •How can you break the status quo with Innovation? •Telegram community question: Could e-Rezept be combined with some sort of location beacon (maybe FOAM? and allow for medications to be delivered by drone? •Ecosystem roadmap 2020 and beyond •Favorite scientist of all time – physicist Lev Landau ( •How are you occupying yourself in self-quarantine? Health Unchained New Corner On April 10, Google and Apple announced a joint effort to use Bluetooth technology to help governments and health agencies reduce the spread of the virus, with user privacy and security central to the design. Singapore has already developed an app called TraceTogether that also uses Bluetooth to detect possible contact with an infected person. Although Singapore claims that Tracetogether data older than 21 days will automatically be deleted, many critics argue that this type of data collection is only increasing the level of government surveillance. TraceTogether is developed by the Ministry of Health and Government Technology Agency (GovTech), in support of SGUnited. SafeTrace: Privacy-Preserving Contact Tracing for COVID-19 ( Health Unchained Links Website: Telegram: Twitter: Bert’s Blockchain and Healthcare Weekly Newsletter:
April 13, 2020

Ep. 60: COVIDathon – Decentralized AI Hackathon (featuring 3 Judges)

COVIDathon - Virtual Hackathon - develop and launch open-source code using AI and/or blockchain to combat COVID-19, reduce risks from future infectious outbreaks, and cope with the COVID-19 pandemic situation. Phase 1 submission deadline is April 30, 2020 Show Notes 3 Guests - COVIDathon Judges •NiMA Asghari (Berlin)– Ecosystem Accelerator at Ocean Protocol •Robert Miller (Maryland, US)- ep. 43 –Senior consultant - ConsenSys Health ( •Jonathan Passerat Palmbach (London, UK)– Research Scientist - ConsenSys Health •COVID19 hackathons growth and purpose •COVIDathon structure and rules •Sponsoring Partners - Decentralized AI Alliance, SingularityNET, and Ocean Protocol •Advantages of using Blockchain for privacy preserving AI •Consensys health – Federated Learning Research ( •OpenMined is an open-source community whose goal is to make the world more privacy-preserving by lowering the barrier-to-entry to private AI technologies: •Private Kit: Safe Paths; Privacy-by-Design Contact Tracing: •Reputation Protocol for open Collaboration: •Stop COVID-19 Hackathon by ConsenSys Health: •NiMA's Episode 1 of Voices of Data Economy podcast presented by Ocean Protocol: •Mentorship opportunities •Importance of Teambuilding for sustainable solutions •Goals of the non-profit (DAIA foundation) Health Unchained Links Website: Telegram: Twitter: Bert’s Blockchain and Healthcare Weekly Newsletter:
April 5, 2020

Ep. 59: Tracking COVID19 On Hashgraph – Jim Nasr (CEO Acoer)

Jim Nasr, CEO of Acoer, and his team has built a trusted coronavirus tracking dashboard ( using Hedera Hashgraph, a next generation decentralized ledger technology. The data is pulled from multiple sources including the World health organization and the Center for Disease Control and Prevention where Jim was previously Chief Software Architect. Jim also co-founded Armedia, a Enterprise Content Management company, in 2002 and exited in 2016. Show Notes •Journey into technology, business and healthcare •COVID-19 tipping point for the economy and healthcare •When did you first hear about blockchain? •Three pillars of Acoer: Usable software, interoperability (Open APIs), blockchain technology •Hashlog – Data Visualization Engine •Hashload – Secure data and file exchange •Hedera Hashgraph – Differentiating protocol qualities and Hedera developer community network •Insights from the blockchain based coronavirus tracking on Acoer •What did you find surprising about the CDC when you first joined? •How is blockchain adoption and awareness in healthcare developing globally and domestically? •What are the biggest misconceptions of blockchain when you speak with various healthcare executives? It doesn’t scale is a common copout for executives to not start a blockchain project. •Healthcare Data Provenance •What does computational trust mean? •Primary Data Collection strategies •Data Privacy concerns and opportunities for blockchain •Using Game Theory to incentivize good behavior •What are the failure points of the platform? •How is data sharing being redefined in our society as we deal with a pandemic? •Value of patient data and individual rights •What do you believe in that most people would disagree with? •Ecosystem roadmap 2020 and beyond •Favorite book – The power of habit by Charles Duhigg •If it’s not too personal, what would you consider to be your biggest mistake? •How are you occupying yourself in self-quarantine? Health Unchained News Corner 1. #BuildforCOVID19 Global Online Hackathon ( had a submission deadline as March 30 and currently has over 17k participants, which is insane for a hackathon. Companies like Amazon, Facebook, Giphy, Microsoft, Pinterest, Salesforce, Slack, TikTok, Twitter, and WeChat are supporting this hackathon. 2. IBM’s Call for Code Global Challenge - COVID-19: Fight the global pandemic ( This hackathon was kicked off on March 20 and will accept initial submissions by April 27th 3. COVIDathon Decentralized AI against Covid-19 ( is accepting submissions April 1st to June 1st 2020 – The Decentralized AI Alliance, SingularityNET and Ocean Protocol are leading this hackathon to Build privacy-centric solutions for CoVID19 using AI & Blockchain technologies. Health Unchained podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only and we are not providing any sort of legal, financial, or medical advice. Please do your own research and due diligence before making any important decisions related to these matters. Health Unchained Links Website: Telegram: Twitter: Bert’s Blockchain and Healthcare Weekly Newsletter:
March 28, 2020

Health Unchained

Health Unchained features insights from the top healthcare innovators, entrepreneurs, and executives who are applying blockchain technology solutions to disrupt the health industry. We discuss their strategies, challenges, and unique experiences in this exciting new field.

Blockchain technology has the potential to create a new layer of trust, reducing the friction to participate in a healthcare network. Combined with other emerging technologies, blockchain can dramatically improve population health management, medical supply chain, health-monitoring devices, genetics research, and other health-related sectors. A diverse mix of healthcare leaders and blockchain experts is needed to accelerate the adoption of blockchain-based solutions that our healthcare system so desperately needs. The field includes economists, technologists, healthcare providers, policymakers, and financial institutions.

Listen to Health Unchained to learn about the impact that blockchain technology is having, and will continue to have, on the healthcare industry.
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Ray Dogum

Ray Dogum

Ray Dogum is the producer and host of the Health Unchained podcast. On his show, he interviews leaders in the blockchain/healthcare industry where he covers topics such as health data integrity management, efficiency improvement opportunities in healthcare administration, and the future of decentralization. He also manages the deployment of enterprise-scale telehealth solutions for Health Systems at American Well, a telemedicine company based in Boston.

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