SoundPractice Podcast

SoundPractice Podcast

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Prescription for an Extraordinary Life from Dr. Gary Josephson

Mike Sacopulos interviews Gary Josephson, MD, CPE, MBA, chief medical officer at Nemours Children’s Health, in Jacksonville, Florida, about his new book, Ordinary to Extraordinary: Seven Principles for Life Success.  This book is a useful tool to improve one’s life. Dr. Josephson provides wise counsel on the “7” principles that guide his life, and suggestions for all individuals on how to view life from ordinary to extraordinary. Dr. Josephson describes adversity, his physician leadership journey, and his work as a Certified Physician Executive (CPE). Learn more about the American Association for Physician Leadership at  
September 21, 2022

Dr. Rob Lamberts and a Direct Primary Care (DPC) Practice

Dr. Rob Lamberts is an innovator in the world of DPC – Direct Primary Care. Opening his DPC practice in 2013, he continues to believe that the model of care he uses has the real potential to change healthcare. Direct Primary Care (where patients pay a flat fee for their care) combined with the smart use of technology empowers patients, creates the true “medical home,” and redefines the way doctors think about patient care.   In this conversation with host, Mike Sacopulos, Dr. Lambers describes the basics of the model: It is simple.  Patients pay the doctor for their care and the doctor does not have to code to submit to insurance companies. The doctor only has one person to please: the patient. It aligns motivations of both doctors and patients. In DPC, the physician is paid the same if the patients are healthy or sick. This means the physician and patient are aligned; they both want the patient to be healthy and avoid going to the doctor. The payment system is simple and the reliance on technology breaks down complex tasks to greatly reduce cost. Although this model has many features that stand in stark contrast to “business of usual” in healthcare, the model is not for every physician. Tune in for this engaging talk on the pros, the cons, and the pitfalls to avoid in a disruptive model in healthcare. Learn more about the American Association for Physician Leadership at  
September 7, 2022

Dr. Joan Thomas and Her Improbable Journey as Cardiologist

Dr. Thomas discusses her motivation for writing her memoir, The Heart of the Story: My Improbable Journey as a Cardiologist, her leadership journey in Cardiology, and the advantages of attaining the status of CPE – Certified Physician Executive. She also discusses the work of the WIC “Women in Cardiology” section of the ACC-American College of Cardiology and her concrete advice for physicians who are interested in leadership positions. Lastly, she discusses her various academic appointments, dealing with the inequities in medicine, and her opinion on the progress that is being made for women in healthcare. Dr. Thomas’ book is here: Learn more about the American Association for Physician Leadership at  
August 24, 2022

The Mission of the American Medical Student Association (AMSA) with Dr. Michael Walls

Michael Walls, DO, MPH, is the current National President of the American Medical Student Association (AMSA) and has been with the organization since he first joined as a member in 2014. In this episode of SoundPractice, Mike Sacopulos and Dr. Walls discuss the rich history and mission of AMSA – and how the organization works to prepare, train, and embolden medical students to become leaders.  With over 30,000 members worldwide, the association’s ongoing initiatives include advocacy for providing equitable lowering drug prices, equitable access to healthcare for all, understanding how environmental and social determinants of health impact health and the timely and paramount issue of reproductive rights. Dr. Walls also discusses the medical education scorecard initiative, which fills gaps that often exist in medical school training. And what should medical school training look like in future?  Dr. Walls and Mike Sacopulos cover that topic as well. Learn more about the American Association for Physician Leadership at  
August 10, 2022

Writing as a Tool for Physicians and Physician Leaders

Benjamin Rattray, DO, MBA, CPE, FAAP is a newborn critical care physician in North Carolina where he serves as Associate Medical Director of Neonatal Intensive Care at the Cone Health Women's and Children's Center. He completed a pediatric residency and a neonatal-perinatal medicine fellowship at Duke University Medical Center, holds an MBA from LSU Shreveport, and is a Certified Physician Executive. He is the author of “When All Becomes New: A Doctor's Stories of Life, Love, and Loss.” Written with powerful, compassionate insight, “When All Becomes New” reveals the joys of triumph and the harrowing experiences in caring for critically ill babies. Above all, it is a meditation on humanism and empathy in life’s most difficult circumstances and the redemptive power of love. Dr. Rattray discusses his physician leadership journey, his mentor, and his experience in both his MBA and his CPE (Certified Physician Executive) training.  He also describes his philosophy for both the science and art of medicine --  his use of writing for stories to bear witness for experiences in medicine. Learn more about the American Association for Physician Leadership at  
July 27, 2022

Medical Historian Lindsey Fitzharris and new book, The Facemaker

“The Facemaker: A Visionary Surgeon's Battle to Mend the Disfigured Soldiers of World War I”  is an unlikely story of modern plastic surgery on the battlefields of WWI, written by Lindsey Fitzharris. Fitzharris has a Ph.D. in the History of Science and Medicine from Oxford University, and her debut book, The Butchering Art (a no-holds-barred journey into the Victorian era operating room), won the PEN/E.O. Wilson Award for Literary Science. With The Facemaker, a New York Times Bestseller, she introduces us to long-overlooked medical pioneer Harold Gillies, the “Father of Modern Plastic Surgery" (incidentally, Gillies also performed the first phalloplasty on a transgender man, Michael Dillon, in 1945). After experiencing “the brutal hothouse of frontline surgery” firsthand, Gillies devoted himself to rebuilding the burned and broken faces of wounded soldiers, establishing one of the first hospitals dedicated entirely to facial reconstruction. Gillies was an audacious surgical innovator – he invented the “tubed pedicle” to increase the success rate of skin grafts, and developed the epithelial outlay, a method that revolutionized the rebuilding of eyelids. Lindsey draws a direct line from his groundbreaking work to the advances in face transplant surgery happening today.  Dr. Fitzharris traces the birth of plastic surgery back not only to the physical realities of WWI facial wounds, but also to their psychological repercussions. This was a time when, though losing a limb made you a “hero,” losing a face made you a "monster,” and the soldiers in Gillies’s care faced severe stigmatization upon their return to civilian life – many were forced to sit on specifically designated blue benches so that the public knew not to look at them. Plastic surgery emerged to shield injured soldiers from a society that was largely intolerant of facial differences. Learn more about the American Association for Physician Leadership at  
July 13, 2022

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SoundPractice, hosted by the American Association for Physician Leadership®, delivers practical information and fresh perspectives for physician leaders and those running healthcare systems. Physician advocates Michael Sacopulos, JD (healthcare attorney, author, speaker) and Cheryl Toth, MBA (business writer, speaker - former practice consultant and healthcare tech executive) bring you the best thought leaders, crisp humor, and pithy tips to help your healthcare organization thrive.
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Cheryl Toth, MBA

Cheryl Toth, MBA

Cheryl Toth, MBA, is a professional development leader, trainer, and content creator. Her passion is empowering physicians and practice teams to achieve goals, improve performance, and enjoy their work.

She brings 25 years of practice management consulting, training, healthcare technology leadership, and content development to her projects.

Cheryl has a BS, Music from Western Michigan University and an MBA, Finance from Loyola University Chicago. She received coaching training from Erickson College. A distance runner and life-long learner, Cheryl enjoys culinary, visual, and performing arts, loves to travel, and aspires to speak Spanish fluently.
Michael J. Sacopulos, JD

Michael J. Sacopulos, JD

Mike is the CEO of Medical Risk Institute (MRI), a firm that provides proactive counsel to the healthcare community in order to identify where liability risks originate, and reduce or remove these risks. Mike’s unlawyerlike pragmatism and clever wit make him a sought after speaker by national specialty societies MGMA national and state chapters, and trade associations.

Mike is General Counsel for Medical Justice Services where he is tasked with keeping the organization’s members out of meritless lawsuits. In a fit of madness, Mike agreed to work with a Lloyd’s of London firm, to write the first cyber insurance product designed exclusively for healthcare industry.

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