The Gary Bisbee Show

The Gary Bisbee Show

The Gary Bisbee Show is a weekly podcast discussing how leading health system CEOs and healthcare leaders are navigating the evolving healthcare landscape while leading high-performing teams and driving innovation across the industry.

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70: 4th of July: A Presidential Perspective, with Tevi Troy, Ph.D., Senior Fellow, Bipartisan Policy Center

Meet Tevi Troy, Ph.D.:Tevi Troy, Ph.D. is a Senior Fellow at the Bipartisan Policy Center as well as a Senior Fellow of the Hudson Institute. He is the founder and CEO of American Health Policy Institute. His career extends into the public sector as a former member of President George W. Bush’s transition team, a Deputy Secretary in HHS, and Acting Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy. Additionally, Dr. Troy is a prolific writer with 4 books on presidencies and over 300 articles commenting on political trends.Key Insights:Dr. Troy reflects on the 4th of July through the lens of past presidencies. Bonds of Liberty. During the 4th of July, Presidents look for ways to unite the country. Dr. Troy points to an overarching message of liberty as a way to remember our shared bonds as Americans. (1:49)Did You Know? Thomas Jefferson and John Adams both died on the same day, July 4th, 1826, 50 years after the signing of the Declaration of Independence. (3:32)How We Celebrate. Sometimes Presidents host activities on the 4th of July that advance policies of their administration, like parades or naturalization ceremonies. However, most often Presidents go to a vacation place they are comfortable with and celebrate with family. (6:12)Relevant Links: Follow Tevi Troy on TwitterTevi Troy has published 4 books analyzing past and present presidentsRead Tevi Troy’s article in National Affairs
June 30, 2022
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69: The Pulse of Innovation, with Michael A. Mussallem, Chairman and CEO, Edwards Lifesciences

Meet Mike Mussallem:Mike Mussallem is the Chairman and CEO of Edwards Lifesciences. Prior to Edwards, he was at Baxter International. Currently, Mike serves on the board of the Advanced Medical Technology Association (AdvaMed) and is an advisory board member for the Leonard D. Schaeffer Center for Health Policy & Economics at the University of Southern California. He is a trustee of the University of California, Irvine Foundation and the Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology. Mike received a Bachelor‚Äôs in Chemical Engineering from the Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology.Key Insights:For Mike Mussallem, Edwards Lifesciences has a responsibility to the patients they serve. That mission is baked into their technology, culture, supply chain, and strategy.Culture of Innovation.¬†Mike emphasizes the importance of culture. Edwards, like many medical technology companies, wants a culture of innovation. To achieve that requires rewarding true innovation, not just increases in sales, as well as creating an environment where employees can admit failure and build off of it. (19:12)Supply Chain Resiliency.¬†The pandemic had a limited impact on Edwards due to built-in redundancy. Edwards has multiple production plants and suppliers, with facilities around the globe that support their specific geographic area. Effective strategy combined with strong culture helped Edwards tremendously during the pandemic. (24:42)Culture Eats Strategy.¬†Another fundamental aspect of Edwards‚Äô culture is its dedication to helping patients. The company brings that element to life through storytelling. Conferences or other events often showcase short films about how their technology directly impacts patients. When asked, 90% of Edwards employees think about patients each day when they make decisions. (29:36)Relevant Links:Learn more about Edwards LifesciencesRead ‚ÄúEdwards Lifesciences CEO Mike Mussallem on balancing innovation, ethics and resilience‚ÄĚ
June 23, 2022
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68: Advancing Military Medicine, with Joseph Caravalho, Jr., M.D., MG, U.S. Army, (Ret.), President and CEO, Henry M. Jackson Foundation for the Advancement of Military Medicine

Meet Retired Major General Joe Caravalho, Jr., M.D.:Retired Major General Joe Caravalho, Jr., M.D., is the CEO of the Henry M. Jackson Foundation (HJF) for the Advancement of Military Medicine. Prior to joining HJF, Dr. Caravalho served in the U.S. Army in various position for over 30 years, including Joint Staff Surgeon and Chief Medical Adviser to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Dr. Caravalho received a Bachelor’s in Math from Gonzaga University, a Master’s degree in Strategic Studies from the Army War College, and an M.D. from the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences School of Medicine. Key Insights:Retired Major General Joe Caravalho, Jr., M.D. has led a distinguished leadership career in and supporting the U.S. Military.Career Development. In your early career focus on establishing technical expertise. As your career progresses, continue to develop new skills, particularly related to leading people. The skills necessary for one promotion may not be enough for the next. (24:06)Mentorship. Dr. Caravalho never asked for help or sought out mentorship. He was fortunate to have a commanding officer begin a mentorship relationship without him even realizing. He advises young leaders to not be like him, and instead seek out mentorship relationships early and throughout your career. (26:21)Henry M. Jackson Foundation Explained. HJF is a civilian not-for-profit organization that partners with the military to facilitate multi-year studies and programs. Their research priorities align with the dynamic priorities of the Department of Defense. For example, HJF is currently focused on vaccines and disease prevention. (1:58)Relevant Links: Learn more about the Henry M. Jackson Foundation for the Advancement of Military MedicineRead more about Dr. Caravalho
June 16, 2022
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67: How to Work with Anyone (Even Difficult People), with Amy E. Gallo, Author, “Getting Along: How to Work with Anyone (Even Difficult People)”

Meet Amy Gallo:Amy Gallo is the author of the ‚ÄúHBR Guide to Dealing with Conflict,‚ÄĚ and the forthcoming ‚ÄúGetting Along: How to Work with Anyone (Even Difficult People).‚ÄĚ She is a co-host of the Women at Work podcast and is a contributing editor at Harvard Business Review. She is a public speaker and founder of Amy E Gallo Consulting, Inc as well as a Coach and Consulting Partner at Paravis Partners, LLC. Amy received a Bachelor‚Äôs in Sociology from Yale University and an MPA in Public Policy from Brown University.Key Insights:Amy Gallo realized there were many exceptions to the generalized rules about dealing with conflict. She set out to write a book that provides more specific advice for dealing with different types of difficult people.Being Better at Conflict.¬†When conflict arises, we tend to go on the defensive and lose sight of the other person. Instead, try to think about the other person in an empathetic way. Additionally, do preparation for the conversation. Ask yourself: what are the facts of the situation, what assumptions am I making, and what don‚Äôt I know? And, what if I‚Äôm wrong, what would I do differently? (11:28)Working with Passive-Aggressive Types.¬†Some co-workers may defy orders and not be straightforward or honest. Amy recommends creating situations where that coworker feels comfortable sharing their disagreements, and feels seen and heard. Additionally, create group norms that create positive peer pressure so that person delivers on their agreements. If those tips don‚Äôt work, call out the behavior with examples. (29:05)Working With Know-It-Alls.¬†To navigate disagreements with a know-it-all, focus the conversation on facts and data. Additionally, overconfident people tend to respect confidence in others, so present your data with conviction. Remember that their behavior likely is a reflection of their own insecurities, and not a judgement of you. (32:09)Relevant Links:Check out Amy‚Äôs websitePre-order ‚ÄúGetting Along: How to Work with Anyone (Even Difficult People)‚ÄĚCheck out the ‚ÄúHBR Guide to Dealing with Conflict‚ÄĚ
June 9, 2022
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66: A Surgical Approach to Military Leadership, with Lt. General Ronald J. Place, Director, Defense Health Agency

Meet Lieutenant General Ronald J. Place:Lieutenant General Ronald J. Place is the Director of the Defense Health Agency (DHA), a joint integrated Combat Support Agency enabling the medical service to provide a medically ready force and ready medical force to Combatant Commands in both peacetime and wartime. Previously, LTG Place was the Director of the National Capital Medical Directorate of the Defense Health Agency. He received a Bachelor’s in Chemistry from the University of South Dakota and received his medical degree from Creighton University School of Medicine.Key Insights:Lieutenant General Ronald J. Place has established a career as both a surgeon and military leader. Becoming an Army Doctor. LTG Place initially joined the military as a means to pay for medical school. However, after a deployment with a unit of soldiers dedicated to caring for each other and defending American freedoms, he changed his mindset. He went from being a doctor who happened to be in the Army, to an Army doctor. (10:57)Leadership Philosophy. If you have a leadership philosophy, write it down. Writing it down makes it real, and creates a starting point for the philosophy to be further refined. LTG Place updates his leadership philosophy at least once a year, inspired by what he learns from books, mentors, or his own experiences. (17:19)Mentorship. As a mentor, LTG Place actually refrains from giving advice. For him, the most important part of being a mentor is asking questions, pulling out insightful information so that ultimately the mentee can make their own decision. (21:31) Relevant Links:Learn more about LTG Place’s role as DHA DirectorFollow LTG Place on Twitter
June 2, 2022
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65: What Does Memorial Day Mean for Military Leaders?, with Lt. General R. Scott Dingle, Lt. General Ronald J. Place, Joseph Caravalho, Jr., M.D., MG, U.S. Army, (Ret.), and Elder Granger, M.D., MG, U.S. Army (Ret.)

Meet The Guests:This episode showcases military leaders. Lieutenant General R. Scott Dingle is the Surgeon General of the U.S. Army and Commanding General of the U.S. Army Medical Command. Lieutenant General Ronald J. Place, M.D. is the Director of the Defense Health Agency (DHA). Joseph Caravalho, Jr., M.D. is a retired Major General of the U.S. Army and currently serves as the President and CEO of the Henry M. Jackson Foundation for the Advancement of Military Medicine. Elder Granger, M.D., is a retired Major General of the U.S. Army and is the Founder and President of The 5P’s LLC. Key Insights:Memorial Day is observed on the last Monday of May to mourn U.S. military personnel who died in service. We asked military leaders to share what Memorial Day means to them. Honoring Past Leaders. LTG Dingle shares a quote from General Douglas MacArthur: no one desires peace more than the soldier because it is he, or she, who must pay the greatest price when called upon. (0:40)Honoring the Ultimate Sacrifice. LTG Place shared a personal story of a soldier that died in his medical care, succumbing to injuries from an IED. Following that deployment, LTG Place stopped thinking of himself as a surgeon first, and rather as a soldier first.(2:37)Honoring Selflessness. MG Caravalho points out that there are many patriots; many people that act selflessly for this country. However, Memorial Day is about those who chose to put on a uniform and promised to defend the United States no matter the situation and no matter the sacrifice. (6:54)Honoring History. For MG Granger, Memorial Day reminds him that freedom is not free. We must honor those who paid the ultimate sacrifice from not just modern wars, but also from the American Revolution, the Civil War, World War 1 and 2, and other historical battles that solidified America’s freedom. (9:27)
May 26, 2022
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64: What Will Variant Sigma Look Like?, with Michael T. Osterholm, Ph.D., Regents Professor, Division of Environmental Health Science; Director, Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) University of Minnesota

Meet Michael Osterholm, Ph.D.:Michael Osterholm, Ph.D. is a Regents Professor, the Director of the Center for Infectious Diseases Research and Policy (CIDRAP), and McKnight Presidential Endowed Chair in Public Health at the University of Minnesota. Dr. Osterholm was appointed to President Biden‚Äôs Transition COVID-19 Advisory Board. He is author of ‚ÄúDeadliest Enemy‚ÄĚ and hosts ‚ÄúThe Osterholm Update: COVID-19‚ÄĚ podcast. Dr. Osterholm received a Ph.D. and MS in Environmental Health and an MPH in Epidemiology from the University of Minnesota.¬†Key Insights:Dr. Osterholm is a distinguished leader in a variety of areas including as a scientist, public health official, author, professor, and advisor.¬†The State of the Pandemic.¬†Pre-existing immunity from vaccines and prior infections clearly reduce severe illness and deaths. However, Dr. Osterholm questions, what‚Äôs after Omicron? What will variant Pi and Sigma look like? Viral evolution indicates that upcoming variants will be more infectious and have more immune system evasion. We must be prepared. (13:16)Lessons from Pandemics.¬†There are sociological lessons to learn from previous disease outbreaks. The duration of the 1918 pandemic was around three years. However, after about a year, the public gave up on public health recommendations, and stopped acting on or accepting protections. (28:41)Vaccine Technology.¬†Dr. Osterholm predicts we will see new vaccine technologies that are more immune enhancing. COVID-19 mRNA vaccines provide a rapid antibody response, which wanes in a matter of months. Adenovirus vaccines initially seemed less effective, but result in a stronger T-cell response, which is a more durable immunity. New vaccine technology will need to produce a complex immune response, rather than focusing on just the antibody response. (30:49)¬†Relevant Links:¬†Check out his podcast ‚ÄúThe Osterholm Update: COVID-19‚ÄĚCheck out Dr. Osterholm‚Äôd book ‚ÄúDeadliest Enemy: Our War Against Killer Germs‚ÄĚWatch ‚ÄúAmerican public 'done' with pandemic, even if it's not done with us: Osterholm | ABC News‚ÄĚ
May 19, 2022
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63: Ohio: Pandemic Response and Public Health Lessons, with Bruce Vanderhoff, M.D., Director, Ohio Department of Health

Meet Bruce Vanderhoff, M.D.:Bruce Vanderhoff, M.D. is the Director of the Ohio Department of Health. Before his directorship, he was the department‚Äôs Chief Medical Officer. Prior to that, Dr. Vanderhoff served in a variety of roles at OhioHealth, including the Senior VP, Chief Medical Officer, and VP of Medical Education, Quality, and Patient Safety. He also practiced as a family medicine physician.¬†Dr. Vanderhoff received his M.D. from the University of Pennsylvania and an MBA from Franklin University.Key Insights:Dr. Vanderhoff dives into pandemic management and leadership lessons from a state government perspective.Ohio‚Äôs Vax-a-Million.¬†Dr. Vanderhoff described the design behind Ohio‚Äôs vaccine lottery. The goal was to incentivize people that were inclined to get the vaccine, but hadn‚Äôt done so yet. Two weeks after the program was announced, there was a 28% increase in the number of people getting vaccinated. (3:33)Lessons for Public Health.¬†Dr. Vanderhoff emphasized that we cannot predict all potential public health threats. However, we know that people who are healthy are better able to weather pandemics and other health challenges compared to people who are unhealthy. Thus, improving the overall health of people is a crucial part of preparation for future public health threats. (19:58)Problem Solving Methodology.¬†To achieve big goals, Dr. Vanderhoff recommends designing a plan that is iterative, that breaks down the problem into smaller steps. He also points to the importance of understanding lived experience. Seek out perspectives from workers on the frontlines before formulating solutions to their problems. (33:35)Relevant Links:Read more about Dr. VanderhoffRead ‚ÄúDeWine names Dr. Bruce Vanderhoff as the Ohio Department of Health's new director‚ÄĚ
May 12, 2022
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62: The Power of Regret, with Daniel Pink, Author, “The Power of Regret: How Looking Backward Moves Us Forward”

Meet Daniel Pink:Daniel Pink is the author of five New York Times bestsellers aboutbusiness, work, creativity, and behavior. His latest is ‚ÄúThe Power of Regret: How Looking Backward Moves Us Forward.‚ÄĚ Daniel hosts a MasterClass on sales and persuasion, and he contributes to in The New York Times, Harvard Business Review, The Atlantic, and Slate. Previously, Daniel was the host and co-executive producer of the television show ‚ÄúCrowd Control.‚ÄĚ Daniel received a B.A. from Northwestern University, and a JD from Yale Law School.Key Insights:Regret is a complex, but common negative emotion. It is uncomfortable, but when confronted, it can be transformative.Transformational Regret.¬†Reflecting on regret has been found to decrease cognitive biases, and improve skills related to problem solving, strategy, and negotiation. Daniel shares research that showed that participants who were asked to reflect on what they regretted about a previous negotiation exercise did better in the next negotiation. (12:05)Four Categories of Regret.¬†Through his research, Daniel found four core regrets. foundational regrets are about stability, often related to finances or health. Boldness regrets are about taking chances, like traveling or starting a business. Moral regrets are about doing the right thing. Lastly, connection regrets are related to the loss of relationships. The most common regrets are connection regrets. (17:08)How Leaders Can Use Regret.¬†Daniel encourages leaders to share their regrets and mistakes. It creates an opportunity for powerful conversations about what can be learned from regrets and how to prevent future ones. It also helps normalize regret, which is important because regret is normal. (30:55)Relevant Links:¬†Check out Daniel Pink‚Äôs websiteListen to the Pinkcast, Daniel Pink‚Äôs podcastRead ‚ÄúWhat Can We Learn from the Solace of ‚ÄėAt Least‚Äô and the Sting of ‚ÄėIf Only‚Äô?‚ÄĚ by Daniel Pink
May 5, 2022
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61: L.O.V.E. to Lead, with Sean Lane, Chief Executive Officer, Olive

Meet Sean Lane:Sean Lane is the CEO of Olive and CEO of Circulo Health. Previously, he was an Intelligence Officer for the National Security Agency. He was also founder and Chairman of the Board for Betamore, Founder and Chairman Emeritus of Digital Harbor Foundation, and Founder of APX Labs. Sean received a Bachelor‚Äôs in Political Science and Government from Miami University.¬†Key Insights:Sean Lane is freeing up healthcare‚Äôs scarcest resource: time.¬†Explaining Olive.¬†Olive is an automation company for healthcare. Olive herself is a virtual assistant that can learn to automate various administrative and operational tasks using artificial intelligence and deep learning. (10:58)Leadership Philosophy.¬†Sean sums up his leadership methodology with the phrase ‚ÄúLove to lead.‚ÄĚ Love is an acronym: ‚ÄúL‚ÄĚ for leadership, because everything is a leadership problem; ‚ÄúO‚ÄĚ for otherhood, to always think about others; ‚ÄúV‚ÄĚ for vision, making vision a reality; and ‚ÄúE‚ÄĚ for expectations, setting them clearly to avoid confusion and frustration. (22:29)Start Early.¬†Sean became interested in leadership through the manuals and books his father brought home. Sean points out that now we have the internet! Take advantage of the vast resources around leadership, and decide what methodology you want to embrace. (29:24)Relevant Links:¬†Learn more about OliveCheck out Sean‚Äôs websiteWatch ‚ÄúA plan to redirect a trillion dollars in the US healthcare system with Olive CEO Sean Lane‚ÄĚ
April 28, 2022
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60: Doing Hard Things in a Human Way, with Rasmus Hougaard, Founder and CEO, Potential Project

In this episode, Gary spoke with Rasmus Hougaard, founder and CEO of Potential Project, and author of ‚ÄúCompassionate Leadership: How to Do Hard Things in a Human Way.‚ÄĚ They discussed the need for a new kind of leadership that emphasizes listening and compassion.
April 21, 2022
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59: Choosing Courage, with Jim Detert, Ph.D., John L. Colley Professor of Business Administration, University of Virginia's Darden Graduate School of Business Administration

Meet Jim Detert:Jim Detert, Ph.D. is the John L. Colley Professor of Business Administration at the Darden Graduate School of Business Administration, and a Professor of Public Policy at the Batten School of Leadership and Public Policy at the University of Virginia. He is the author of ‚ÄúChoosing Courage: The Everyday Guide to Being Brave at Work.‚ÄĚ Professor Detert received an M.A. in sociology and Ph.D. in organizational behavior from Harvard University. He also holds an MBA from the University of Minnesota and a BBA from the University of Wisconsin.Key Insights:Have you ever wanted to disagree with your boss, or make a tough decision you knew would be unpopular? Jim Detert, Ph.D. shows us how.¬†Why Courage Matters.¬†Courage matters firstly for ourselves. Acts of courage define our legacy, and our biggest regrets tend to be inactions. Secondly, courage is important for organizations. Courage is fundamental to innovation because innovation is about challenging the status quo. (11:16)Emotional Intelligence.¬†Emotional Intelligence is not the lack of emotions, rather the ability to read other‚Äôs emotional state and channel your own emotions properly. Emotions are information. For example, if you give a presentation in a monotone way, it won‚Äôt garner any excitement for the idea. Similarly, ignoring a coworker‚Äôs reddening face won‚Äôt deescalate a situation. (24:36)How to Lead Courage. Leaders must acknowledge that fear exists and work towards a culture that promotes and protects courage. This includes modeling courageous actions, defending employees that are courageous, and examining potential barriers to bravery like financial and promotion incentives.(35:48)
April 14, 2022
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58: Data Powered, People Centered, with Rajeev Singh, CEO and Chairperson of the Board, Accolade

Meet Rajeev Singh:Rajeev Singh is the Accolade CEO and Chairperson. Accolade is transforming employer health benefits programs through providing personalized, continuous and integrated health services. He is also a board member of Avalara and Amperity, and a Trustee of the Seattle Children‚Äôs Hospital Foundation. Previously, Rajeev was Co-Founder, President and COO of Concur Technologies a highly successful company with a multi-billion dollar sale to SAP. He graduated with a B.S.E. from Western Michigan University.¬†Key Insights:Rajeev Singh is a successful entrepreneur who pivoted to healthcare to make tangible, positive changes in people‚Äôs lives.Aligning on Mission.¬†Rajeev emphasizes the importance of mission and values over objectives or measurables. Core values keeps a company aligned to its mission and moving in the right direction. It gives talented employees a compass to make decisions. (11:46)¬†Aligning Incentives.¬†Rajeev thinks the healthcare status quo exists because financial incentives are misaligned. To drive adoption, Accolade promised clients that if they didn‚Äôt see lowered costs and improved patient satisfaction, they didn‚Äôt have to pay. By delivering on those promises, Accolade has a nealry 100% retention rate from its customers. (17:41)Aligning Yourself.¬†The key to being an effective leader and entrepreneur is first introspection. Understand yourself and your internal motivations. Second, read as much as you can. And third, have a solid foundation and support system of family and friends. (35:30)Relevant Links:Learn more about AccoladeFollow Rajeev on TwitterRead ‚ÄúQ&A with Rajeev Singh, CEO of Accolade‚ÄĚ
April 7, 2022
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57: The Margin and the Mission, with Niyum Gandhi, CFO and Treasurer, Mass General Brigham

Meet Niyum Gandhi:Niyum Gandhi is the Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer at Mass General Brigham. Previously, he was the CFO, EVP, and Chief Population Health Officer at Mount Sinai Health and a Partner of Health and Life Science at Oliver Wyman. Niyum is a co-founder and Board Chair for Dandelion Helath AI, and on the Board of Directors for HealthPass New York and Northeast Business Group on Health. He received an A.B. in Economics from Harvard University.¬†¬†Key Insights:Niyum Gandhi highlights the relationship between finance and strategy, and showcases how finance can support operations and further an organization‚Äôs mission.Solving at Scale.¬†Scale can be an asset and liability. It is harder to integrate at scale, but health systems have an obligation to do so, as it advances quality of care, fortifies the balance sheet, and can diversify sources of margin. (05:34)Fundamental Tradeoffs. Niyum describes that some healthcare services are high value but will never make margin. Margin is fundamental to financial health, but also providing those services is important to the local community; both are a part of the mission. It is important for health systems to balance those tradeoffs. (13:04)The Economics of Healthcare. Traditionally, health systems stay in the black by forgoing investments for the future. Recently, more systems are making more long-term investments; however, inflation is raising costs. A challenge for healthcare leaders is balancing between investing in the future, while effectively addressing the financial challenges of today. (15:54)Relevant Links:¬†Listen to ‚ÄúMargin & Mission‚ÄĚ with Niyum GandhiFollow Niyum on Twitter
March 31, 2022
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56: HIMSS-22: Top Health IT Trends, with Kaveh Safavi, M.D., J.D., John Glaser, Ph.D, and Suchi Saria, Ph.D.

Meet the Panel Guests:This panel features three guests previously featured at Think Medium. John Glaser, Ph.D. is an Executive-in- Residence at the Harvard Medical School Executive Education. Suchi Saria, Ph.D. is the founder and CEO of Bayesian Health. She is also an Advisory Council member for Day Zero. Kaveh Safavi, M.D., J.D. is the Senior Managing Director at Accenture. Key Insights:Three health technology and data experts discuss healthcare trends and innovations that emerged during the HIMSS conference.Staffing Shortages, Short on Solutions. Dr. Safavi noted that staffing shortages and challenges related to employee payroll costs have rapidly become a top problem in healthcare. However, few booths at HIMSS were organized around this issue. There are limited products in the pipeline to solve staffing challenges. (10:58)Solving Problems with AI. In the last year, there have been significant staffing shortages, coupled with drops in quality, safety, and health outcomes. Dr. Saria shares that AI is aiming to solve some of these problems. This includes better managing at-risk contracts and improving remote care and monitoring for at-home patient care. (20:47)Technology Quotient (TQ). Dr. Glasser emphasizes that healthcare leaders need to be digitally savvy. Digitally savvy leaders that have a working understanding of AI, experience with a major technology implementation, and experience piloting a new digital technology, are better equipped to lead technology transformation efforts. (37:34)Relevant Links: Learn more about HIMSSCheck out The Gary Bisbee Show interview with John Glaser, Ph.D.Check out Day Zero’s interview with Suchi Saria, Ph.D.Check out The Gary Bisbee Show interview with Kaveh Safavi, M.D., J.D.
March 29, 2022
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55: A Chief Economist Projects Inflation and Rising Interest Rates, with Ryan Severino, Chief Economist, JLL

Meet Ryan Severino:Ryan Severino is the Chief Economist at JLL. He is also an adjunct professor at Columbia University and New York University. Previously, he was a Senior Economist and Director of Research at Reis and an Associate Director of Research at MetLife Real Estate Investments. He received a Bachelor‚Äôs degree in Finance, Japanese, and Economics from Georgetown University, and an MA in International Finance and Economics from Columbia University.Key Insights:Ryan Severino approaches the economy with a big picture perspective, analyzing the implications of global trends.¬†Rising Interest Rates.¬†The Federal Reserve will raise interest rates to increase the cost of capital. This disincentivizes organizations from borrowing money, which will tamp down the demand side of the economy. The Federal Reserve can only influence the demand side of the economy to decrease inflation. (4:53)Demand-side Inflation.¬†There have been disruptions in supply chains; however, Ryan points to increases in demand as the main driver for inflation. Government spending, low interest rates, pent up savings by consumers, and a tight labor market has created a strong demand situation. (14:25)How Technology Impacts Economy.¬†The pandemic only exacerbated an existing labor shortage, due to America‚Äôs aging demographics. One way to address this is to invest in technology, like AI or machine learning, to make the existing labor supply more productive. (24:28)Relevant Links:Read ‚ÄúEconomic calculus: The mathematical study of continuous change? A fitting description for the current U.S. economy‚ÄĚ by Ryan SeverinoRead ‚ÄúPowering through! From the pandemic to geopolitical events, parts of the U.S. economy are certainly challenged. Can CRE rise above?‚ÄĚ by Ryan SeverinoFollow Ryan on Twitter
March 24, 2022
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54: Riding Shotgun: Best Practices of Successful COOs, with Nate Bennett, Ph.D., Professor, J. Mack Robinson College of Business, Georgia State University

Meet Nate Bennett Ph.D.:Nate Bennett Ph.D. is a professor of¬†management and the faculty director of the EMBA program with the J. Mack Robinson College of Business at Georgia State University. He is co-author of two books, ‚ÄúRiding Shotgun: The Role of the COO‚ÄĚ and ‚ÄúYour Career Game:¬† How Game Theory Can Help You Achieve Your Professional Goals.‚ÄĚ He is also a contributor to the Harvard Business Review, Wall Street Journal, and He received his Ph.D. in Management from the Georgia Institute of Technology.Key Insights:¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†¬†The COO is an underutilized member of the c-suite. Nate Bennett, Ph.D. is a leading author and researcher of the role and shares best practices of successful COOs.COO Configurations. Professor Bennett found that there are seven types of COOs. The most common is the executor. While the CEO is focused on anticipation and looking to the future, this COO type drives performance and ensures strategy is executed efficiently. (3:49)The Evolving COO Role.¬†The COO role has evolved over the last few decades. It is a competitive advantage for COOs to be savvier about finance, technology, big data, talent management, and globalization. Additionally, Professor Bennett points out there‚Äôs been a rise in stakeholder perspective, rather than traditional shareholder perspective. (19:37)Your Career as Rock Climbing.¬†Career progression is less like a ladder, and more like rock climbing. Sometimes your choices will seem like sideways, diagonal, or even downward movements. It is important to be agile, and continue to invest in yourself to create a more compelling value proposition for your next employer. (36:04)Relevant Links:¬†Check out Dr. Bennett‚Äôs websiteCheck out Dr. Bennett‚Äôs booksRead his contributions on Leadership Strategy for Forbes
March 17, 2022
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53: 2022 Midterms: Top Voter Issues, with Jarrett Lewis, Partner, Public Opinion Strategies, Brian Stryker, Partner, Impact Research, and Neil Newhouse, Co-founder and Partner, Public Opinion Strategies

Meet The Host, Jarrett Lewis:Jarrett Lewis is a Partner at Public Opinion Strategies. Previously, he was the Executive Director of Health Policy at The Health Management Academy. He received a B.A. in Political Science from Clemson University and an MBA from Duke University.Meet The Guests, Neil Newhouse & Brian Stryker:Neil Newhouse is co-founder and Partner of Public Opinion Strategies. He has been named Pollster of the Year three times by the American Association of Political Consultants. He received an undergraduate degree from Duke University, and a graduate degree from the University of Virginia.Brian Stryker is a Partner at Impact Research. Brian was a recipient of the 2021 American Association of Political Consultants 40 Under 40 Award. He received an undergraduate degree in History from the University of Washington.Key Insights:Neil Newhouse and Brian Stryker are experts at measuring and moving public opinions.Top Issues for the Midterms. The number one issue for voters is the economy, specifically inflation and cost of living. While changing day-by-day, the Ukraine conflict has become a rising issues for voters as well. (9:41) What about Healthcare? Healthcare can be an important issue in terms of cost. However, as new problems are supplanting COIVD-19, healthcare has become a back-burner issue. Many people dislike the current healthcare system, but also fear too much change. (34:47) An Era of Hyper-partisanship. Neil shares that traditionally one-third of voters split their ticket, but that decreased to 9% of voters in the 2020 election. Brian also points out that voters don’t often reward compromise, which limits politicians’ ability to work across party lines. (44:45)Relevant Links: Follow Brian Stryker on TwitterFollow Neil Newhouse on TwitterFollow Jarrett Lewis on Twitter
March 10, 2022
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52: Bringing Hospital Care to the Home, with Travis Messina, Founder and CEO, Contessa Health

Meet Travis Messina:Travis Messina is the Founder and CEO of Contessa Health. Prior to Contessa, Travis gained experience in the delivery and financing of healthcare as an officer at Vanguard Health Systems.  He was an investment banker specializing in mergers and acquisitions at Signal Hill Capital and SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. He received a bachelor’s degree in International Business from the University of Georgia and an MBA from Vanderbilt University.Key Insights:Contessa partners with health systems to treat high acuity patients in their homes.Home Hospital Technology. Contessa uses remote patient monitoring to capture vital signs and track patient outcomes. Contessa developed a platform, Care Convergence, to manage logistical coordination to ensure that their distributed model of care meets hospital turnaround times. (10:36)High Patient Satisfaction. Traditionally, patients in need of hospital care have two options: either admission to the hospital or leave against medical advice. Contessa creates a third option for patients, resulting in a net promoter score greater than 90%. (23:24)Impact of Government Regulations. Contessa was the first hospital-at-home model to receive managed care reimbursement. Medicare fee for service did not cover hospital at home care until the pandemic, which it did through a waiver associated with the Public Health Emergency. If or when the waiver expires, coverage will become less available. (13:44)Relevant Links: Learn more about ContessaLearn more about Travis Messina with this interview from his Alma mater
March 8, 2022
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51: I AM ALS, with Brian Wallach, Co-founder and Board Member, Synapticure; Co-founder, I AM ALS and Sandra Abrevaya, Co-founder and CEO, Synapticure; Co-founder, I AM ALS

Meet Brian Wallach and Sandra Abrevaya:In 2017, Brian Wallach learned that he was diagnosed with ALS. He and his wife Sandra Abrevaya are dedicating their remaining time together to help ALS patients everywhere. They founded I AM ALS, a non-profit organization that successfully advocated for millions in research through major legislation. Brian and Sandra also launched Synapticure, a care platform for ALS patients, with the backing of GV and other investors. They are on a mission to reshape our understanding and treatment of ALS.Key Insights:Brian and Sandra are truly inspirational, revealing how a family can go forward with a devastating diagnosis and what two people can accomplish in such a short amount of time.Founding I AM ALS.¬†Sandra and Brian founded the non-profit I AM ALS to create policy change. Their advocacy facilitated the passage of Act for ALS, which allocates $100 million annually over five years for research and expands treatment options for patients. They also have reframed the narrative around ALS to focus on hope. (14:00)Creating Better Care for ALS Patients.¬†Synapticure facilitates coordinated care and gives ALS patients access to cutting-edge and personalized testing and treatment. Sandra and Brian founded this company to create the continuity of care they wished they had in their treatment experience. (23:06)Power in the Purpose.¬†Brian gets his energy from the knowledge that he and Sandra can change the course of ALS with their advocacy. He is driven partially by necessity, but also the belief that he can make a difference, and potentially save his life and 1000‚Äôs of others. (32:38)Relevant Links:¬†Learn more about I AM ALS and how to take actionLearn more about SynapticureRead ‚ÄúI am Brian Wallach‚ÄĚRead ‚ÄúI am Sandra Abrevaya and Brian Wallach‚ÄĚ
March 3, 2022
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50: Democracy is Hard Work, with Governor Bob Kerrey, Managing Director, Allen & Company and Former Governor & U.S. Senator (NE), and Mitch E. Daniels, Jr., President, Purdue University and Former Governor (IN)

Meet Bob Kerrey:Bob Kerrey is a Managing Director at Allen & Company, Chairman of the Minerva Institute for Research and Scholarship, and Lead Director of Tenet Healthcare. He served as the 35th Governor of Nebraska and as a U.S. Senator from Nebraska. He was also the President of The New School and served as a U.S. Navy SEAL. Governor Kerrey received a degree in Pharmacy from the University of Nebraska.Meet Mitch E. Daniels Jr.:Mitch E. Daniels Jr. is the President of Purdue University and previously served as the 49th Governor of Indiana. He is a current Director and former Lead Director at Cerner Corporation. Previously, President Daniels was the Director of the U.S. Office of Management and Budget and worked as the President of North American Operations and then¬†Senior Vice President of Corporate Strategy and Policy for Eli Lily & Company. He received a Bachelor‚Äôs from the Princeton School of Public and International Affairs.Key Insights:In the spirit of bipartisanship, we invited two former politicians, one Democrat and one Republican, for a bold discussion on today‚Äôs greatest challenges.Decision Making During COVID-19.¬†Both explore how they addressed COVID-19 issues with limited information. President Daniels describes how Purdue designed protective guidelines from scratch, building in a way to evaluate their choices. Governor Kerrey reminds us to not assume we know everything, and to not apply solutions with a broad brush. (6:45) (9:44)Democracy is Hard.¬†Governor Kerrey reflects on American history and the perceived partisan divide. He points out that we as a country have overcome a lot worse than what is happening today. Democracy takes work and we should not fear conflict or criticism. (39:02)What Drives You?¬†President Daniels shares that the most fulfilling aspect of his work is leaving behind something better. He encourages young leaders to question why they are seeking leadership roles. The answer should not be about you, rather the impact you can have. (43:05)Relevant Links:¬†Read Mitch Daniels contributions to the Washington PostRead ‚ÄúWhen I Was a Young Man: A Memoir‚ÄĚ by Bob Kerrey
February 24, 2022
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49: Connecting Health and Social Care, with Dan Brillman, Co-founder and CEO, Unite Us

Meet Dan Brillman:Dan Brillman is the co-founder and CEO of Unite Us. He is a member of the U.S. Air Force Reserves as a pilot, and has served since 2007. Previously, he was a Principal at Scout Ventures and an Investment Analyst at Buck Consultants. He received a degree in Political Science and Government from Yale University, and an MBA from Columbia Business School.Key Insights:When Dan Brillman returned from a deployment, veterans that he served with asked for help with their health and social service issues. He realized veterans and civilians alike needed support in accessing fragmented human services.¬†Connecting Fragmented Systems.¬†Dan found that the services meant to help veterans ‚Äď like housing, mental health, and employment ‚Äď were disjointed and complicated to navigate. He founded Unite Us, a technology platform that smooths the connection between patients and services in their community.(7:39)Redefining Care.¬†Dan envisions a future where human services are given the same importance and funding as traditional health services; where housing is given the same attention and resources as a knee surgery. (16:15)The Highs and Lows.¬†A low point in the entrepreneurial journey for Dan was feeling ahead of the market, having trouble securing investors and partners, which limited the number of people they could help. A high point came when Unite Us scaled to where its teams were executing independently, with expertise greater than Dan‚Äôs own knowledge. (22:04)Relevant Links:Learn more about Unite UsFollow Dan on TwitterListen to ‚ÄúDan Brillman and Taylor Justice, Unite Us, on bridging social and health care‚ÄĚ
February 17, 2022
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48: Understanding Digital Health, with John Halamka, M.D., M.S., President, Mayo Clinic Platform

Meet John Halamka, M.D., M.S.:John Halamka, M.D., M.S. is an Emergency Medicine physician and the president of Mayo Clinic Platform. He has authored a number of books on technology and healthcare. Additionally, He and his wife run Unity Farm Sanctuary in Sherborn, Massachusetts. Prior to Mayo Clinic, Dr. Halamka was Chief Information Officer at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center. He received his M.D. from the University of California, San Francisco and earned an M.S. in Medical Informatics from Harvard University.Key Insights:John Halamka, M.D., M.S. is an expert in digital health and information technology. He provides a vision of AI’s potential, and the challenges healthcare will need to consider. Investments in Data. Mayo Clinic Platform’s business partnerships will explore new ways to gather and clean data, analyze models, and deliver clinical results while maintaining patient privacy. (8:49)How Advanced is AI? While the technology is advanced, with a variety of machine learning tools, we currently lack proper policy guardrails to determine best practice for AI. Additionally, many patients feel suspicious of algorithms making healthcare decisions. (14:09)Augmenting Physician Practice. As an emergency physician, Dr. Halamka notes that there are approximately 800 papers in his field published every day. A single physician can’t keep up, but AI has the potential to integrate vast data streams to improve clinical decision making. (26:31)Relevant Links:Check out Dr. Halamka’s blogFollow him on twitter Check out Dr. Halamka’s books
February 10, 2022
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47: Enduring Leadership: The Legacy of the Tuskegee Airmen, with Quentin P. Smith, Jr., Chairman of the Board, Banner Health

Meet Quentin P. Smith Jr.:Quentin P. Smith Jr. is the Chairman of the Banner Health Board of Directors and is President of Cadre Business Advisors, LLC. Quentin has also served on the boards of¬†Store Capital, Orion Group Holdings, Arizona Public Service, Rodel, Inc., iCrossing, Arizona MultiBank, Greater Phoenix Leadership, and the Morrison Institute for Public Policy at Arizona State University. He received Bachelor‚Äôs in industrial management and computer science from Purdue University and an MBA from Pepperdine University.Key Insights:Leadership is timeless. Quentin P. Smith Jr. shares his leadership experience in healthcare, and expands the conversation to his father, Quentin P. Smith, an original Tuskegee Airman.¬†Becoming a Tuskegee Airman.¬†Quentin reveals that his father wasn‚Äôt driven by an interest in being a pilot, rather he wanted to demonstrate to white Americans that Black Americans are equally capable of flying planes. (10:55)Duty to Community Service.¬†As chairman of Banner Health‚Äôs board, Quentin sees his primary mission as community service and being a good fiduciary of a community asset. His job is to provide guidance towards the mission, and ensure that everyone has a chance to contribute. (28:07)Assume You Can Lead.¬†Leadership comes in many forms. Don‚Äôt underestimate yourself, and assume you have the capacity to lead first. (35:47)Relevant Links:¬†Listen to recordings of Quentin P. Smith talking about his experience as a Tuskegee AirmanLearn more about the Tuskegee AirmenRead ‚ÄúStanding firm: ISU alumnus Quentin Smith challenged segregation and changed history.‚ÄĚ
February 3, 2022
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46: Following Your Credo, with Alex Gorsky, Executive Chairman, Johnson & Johnson

Meet Alex Gorsky:Alex Gorsky is the Executive Chairman of Johnson & Johnson and served as their CEO for almost a decade. Alex started his career at Johnson & Johnson as a sales representative and advanced through positions of increasing responsibility in sales, marketing, and management. Alex served in the Army for six years after completing his undergraduate education at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point. He also received an MBA from the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania.Key Insights:Alex Gorsky has over thirty years of experience at Johnson & Johnson. He shares his reflections on leadership in the pharmaceutical industry and across his career.¬†Setting Goals as CEO.¬†For CEOs, Alex advises first listening and learning about the organization. Then, establish a clear and explicit set of priorities that are consistently communicated. (7:57)Examining the Spin-Off.¬†Johnson & Johnson is splitting off its consumer health business. Alex explains that the pharmaceutical and medical, and consumer sectors were diverging in terms of regulation, production, and distribution. This split will unleash innovation and improve customer-centricity. (19:16)Partnerships in Technology.¬†While discussing Johnson & Johnson‚Äôs partnership with Microsoft, Alex predicts that there will be a greater convergence of the biopharma and med tech space with technology usually associated with Silicon Valley. (27:06)¬†Relevant Links:¬†‚ÄúReflections and Gratitude‚ÄĚ by Alex Gorsky‚ÄúAlex Gorsky to Serve as Executive Chairman and Transition Role of Chief Executive Officer of Johnson & Johnson to Joaquin Duato, Effective January 3, 2022‚ÄĚ Johnson & Johnson press releaseWatch ‚ÄúDistinguished Speakers Series: Alex Gorsky, Chairman and CEO, Johnson & Johnson‚ÄĚ
January 27, 2022
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45: Partnership for Transformation with Elizabeth Fowler, Ph.D., J.D., Deputy Administrator and Director of the CMS Innovation Center

Meet Elizabeth Fowler:Elizabeth Fowler, J.D., Ph.D. is the Deputy Administrator and Director of the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation (CMS Innovation Center). Previously, she was Executive Vice President for Programs at the Commonwealth Fund and served as Vice President for Global Health Policy at Johnson & Johnson. She received a Ph.D. in Health Policy from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, and a law degree from the University of Minnesota.Key Insights:The Innovation Center generates and tests new approaches for payment and delivery. It works to move the health system away from fee-for-service and towards a system that rewards better outcomes for patients.The Innovation Center’s Priorities. The top 5 priorities of the Innovation Center are driving accountable care, advancing health equity, supporting care innovation, improving access by addressing affordability, and creating partnerships with public and private entities to achieve transformation. (9:27)The Speed of Innovation. Healthcare transformation is a marathon, not a sprint. It takes around 18 months to two years to conceptualize and implement an innovation model, and three to five years to collect meaningful results. (12:36)Patient at the Center. Dr. Fowler emphasizes that innovation should result in better outcomes for the patient. The Innovation Center conducted focus groups to determine the metrics most important to patients, and to better communicate innovation in relatable terms. (23:57)  Relevant Links: Learn more about the Innovation CenterRead Dr. Fowler’s articles from The Commonwealth FundFollow the Innovation Center on Twitter
January 20, 2022
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44: Leading at a Distance with Jim Citrin, Leader, CEO Practice, Spencer Stuart

Meet Jim Citrin:Jim Citrin is a Senior Director, Partner & Member of the Board of Directors at Spencer Stuart. He is an officer on the Executive Board of the International Tennis Hall of Fame and is a member of the Board of Girl Effect. Jim authored 7 books including ‚ÄúYou‚Äôre in Charge, Now What?‚ÄĚ and ‚ÄúLeading at a Distance.‚ÄĚ He received an MBA from Harvard Business School and a BA in Economics from Vassar College.Key Insights:Jim Citrin has 25 years of experience at Spencer Stuart and has completed more than 775 CEO, board member, and top management searches.¬†How to Interview.¬†People tend to hire in their own image and based on judgements they make in the first few minutes. These are opportunities interviewees can utilize, as well as pitfalls interviewers should avoid. (11:09)Matching People to Companies. Jim shares a story of how understanding a potential CEOs greatest passion and proudest achievements made them the perfect match for an unexpected company. (15:07)The Zoom Advantage. Jim predicts that virtual work is here to stay. When managed correctly, virtual work inspires intrinsic motivation, facilitates better group decisions, and humanized coworkers. (33:19)Relevant Links:¬†Pick up one of Jim Citrin‚Äôs books‚ÄúThe Power of Purpose: 4 Ways You Can Inspire Your Virtual Team‚ÄĚ by Jim Citrin‚ÄúPassing the Baton at The New York Times Company: A Conversation with Mark Thompson and Meredith Levien‚ÄĚ By Jim Citrin
January 13, 2022
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43: The Centrist Solution with Former United States Senator Joseph Lieberman (CT)

Meet Senator Joe Lieberman:Senator Joseph Lieberman is the former United States Senator for Connecticut, which he served as for 24 years. He was also a state Senator and state Attorney General for Connecticut, and was a Vice Presidential Candidate. Sen. Lieberman is currently a co-chair for the organization No Labels. He has authored a number of books, and most recently published ‚ÄúThe Centrist Solution: How We Made Government Work and Can Make It Work Again.‚ÄĚKey Insights:Senator Joseph Lieberman‚Äôs career spanned state and federal politics, and was defined by his centrist approach to policy making.Growing Partisanship.¬†Sen. Lieberman describes some of the factors that contribute to the partisan divide including gerrymandering, money in politics, cable news, social media, and the decrease in civility on the internet. (4:00)No Labels.¬†To combat ineffective gridlock, this organization brings together Republicans, Democrats, and Independents to foster compromise and two-party policy solutions. (22:16)Public Service.¬†For young people interested in public service, Sen. Lieberman advises that they cultivate stamina, take risks, and earn the trust of their colleagues and constituents. (27:58)Relevant Links:¬†Learn more about No LabelsCheck out Sen. Lieberman‚Äôs book: ‚ÄúThe Centrist Solution: How We Made Government Work and Can Make It Work Again.‚ÄĚ‚ÄúBring Back ‚ÄėRegular Order‚Äô‚ÄĚ by Sen. Lieberman in the Wall Street Journal
January 6, 2022
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42: What Healthcare Should Be in 2022

Meet the Guests:This episode features three leaders previously interviewed on¬†The Gary Bisbee Show. Kaveh Safavi, M.D. is the Senior Managing Director at Accenture. Eric Topol, M.D. is the Founder & Director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute and author of ‚ÄúDeep Medicine: How Artificial Intelligence Can Make Healthcare Human Again.‚ÄĚ Felicia Norwood is the Executive Vice President of Anthem and President of the Government Business Division.Key Insights:These experts proposed that leaders need to personalize, digitize, and simplify healthcare.Personalize.¬†Dr. Safavi explains that each patient is unique due to their biology and personal preferences and so each patient wants a different care experience. (1:36)Digitize.¬†Dr. Topol shares the many possibilities of AI in hospital administration. AI could help healthcare save costs, deliver better services, and improve the patient experience. (3:27)¬†Simplify.¬†If she could snap her fingers and change one thing, Felicia would make healthcare simpler. (5:00)
December 30, 2021
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41: Advice for Emerging Leaders

Meet the Guests:This episode features three leaders previously interviewed on The Gary Bisbee Show. Karen DeSalvo, M.D., is the Chief Health Officer at Google. Lieutenant General Scott Dingle is the Surgeon General of the U.S. Army and Commanding General of the U.S. Army Medical Command. Hubert Joly is a Senior Lecturer at the Harvard Business School and the former Chairman and CEO of Best Buy.Key Insights:Leadership is a journey not a destination. Leadership is the accumulation of our abilities, experience, relationships, and reflections.Pace Yourself. Be passionate, but don’t race towards an end goal without taking the time to reflect, build relationships, and hone your skills. This will enrich your career and life. (1:45)Pursue Your Passion. LTG Dingle encourages young health professionals to live their dream. Be passionate, persistent, and precise. However, make sure to stay balanced and take care of yourself. (3:11)Write Your Own Eulogy. Hubert recommends that young leaders write their future retirement speech or eulogy to ensure that their career and life are a reflection what they value the most. (5:08)
December 23, 2021
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40: What Makes an Effective Board Member?

Meet the Guests:This episode features three healthcare leaders. John Glaser, Ph.D. is an Executive in Residence at Harvard Medical School, and currently serves on multiple boards including HL7, the Scottsdale Institute, Wellsheet, Relatient, and NCQA. Kevin Sharer is a senior lecturer at Harvard University Business School and is the former Chairman and CEO of Amgen. He currently serves on the board for Allied Minds and the US Naval Academy Foundation. Kevin previously sat on the boards of directors for Chevron, 3M, and Northrop Grumman. Mindy Mount is a board member of The Learning Care Group, Cerner Corporation, Zayo Group, Group Nine Acquisition Corporation, and Technicolor, where she is also Vice Chairman.Key Insights:Each leader gave slightly different answers; however, there are two key takeaways:Relationships. It is important for board members to have a good relationship among themselves and with the CEO. Teamwork facilitates many of the boards functions such as upholding a company’s vision, reaching consensus on strategy decisions, and monitoring and evaluating the CEO.Advisors Rather Than Managers. Board members advise rather than execute. This separation allows board members to act as outside observers and grants management flexibility in decision making and implementation.
December 16, 2021
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39: Healthcare’s Digital Foundation with John Glaser, Ph.D., Executive-in-Residence, Harvard Medical School, and Former CEO, Siemens

Meet John Glaser, Ph.D.:John Glaser, Ph.D. is an Executive in Resident at Harvard Medical School. Previously, Dr. Glaser joined Cerner Corporation as an Executive Senior Advisor, due to their acquisition of Siemens Health Services, where he was CEO. Prior to that, he served as the CIO for Partners HealthCare, now known as Mass General Brigham. Dr. Glaser sits on the board of directors for the Scottsdale Institute, NCQA, and Forbes Health Advisory Board.Key Insights:John Glaser is a thought leader in the field of healthcare IT. He has decades of experience and has watched the field grow as well as being instrumental in its development.¬†Collaboration. A recent article proposed moving the IT function under business units; however, Dr. Glaser sees that as a risky response to a performance problem. Better performance can be achieved through collaboration: when an IT group and business group work together, teach each other, and hold each other mutually accountable. (14:52)Interoperability. All industries face limits in interoperability. The best way to achieve interoperability is to focus on a limited set of transactions, clear business cases, and create a body that brings all players together to refine the details. (25:32)The Consumer. In a recent article in the Harvard Business Review, Dr. Glaser dives into 5 key principles to improve the patient experience with digital technology. One of those principles is to remember that patients are consumers. Healthcare systems need to provide great medical care as well as a good consumer experience. (32:12)Relevant Links:Read ‚Äú5 Principles to Improve the Patient Experience‚ÄĚ by John Glaser in the Harvard Business ReviewCheck out other articles written by Dr. Glaser in the Harvard Business ReviewRead other research and articles written by Dr. Glaser¬†¬†
December 9, 2021
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38: It's All About the Person with Amir Dan Rubin, Chair, CEO, and President of One Medical

Meet Amir Dan Rubin:Amir Dan Rubin is the Chair, CEO, and President of One Medical. He has previous experience in health insurance and at academic health centers. He was the Executive Vice President and Divisional CEO within Optum, the President and CEO at Sandford Health, the Chief Operating Officer at UCLA Health, and the Chief Operating Officer at Stony Brook University Medical Center. Amir has an MBA in Business Administration and an MHSA in Health Care Administration from the University of Michigan.¬†Key Insights:Amir Dan Rubin shares insights into One Medical‚Äôs unique membership model, and how it lowers costs and improves patient outcomes.¬†90% Net Promoter Score.¬†One Medical has a high score for customer experience because their model is built around the patient. One Medical charges a membership fee rather than fee-for-service, employees are salaried, there is virtual care and their technology encourages coordinated and frictionless care. (13:45)Member Rather Than Patients.¬†One Medical decreases costs through easy access primary care and prevention that decreases emergency room use. Amir admits that the components aren‚Äôt novel, rather it‚Äôs how they work together. (23:37)It‚Äôs About People.¬†If you are interested in mission-driven work, caring people, and an ever-changing field with big challenges, then healthcare is the right industry for you. Amir advises young leaders to find what they love, and be energized by it. (35:22)Relevant Links:Learn more about One Medical‚Äú100 Most Influential People in Healthcare: Amir Dan Rubin‚ÄĚ by Modern Healthcare‚ÄúOne Medical raises full-year guidance with surge in membership, confronts high medical loss ratio in Q3‚ÄĚ by Fierce Healthcare
December 2, 2021
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37: A Special Thanksgiving

In This Episode:The days are shorter and colder, but this second COVID-19 thanksgiving is much more hopeful than last year’s. At Think Medium we are thankful for many things. We are thankful for the healthcare workers who provided stellar care during such a stressful time. We are thankful that the percentage of our fellow Americans having been vaccinated continues to increase. And we are thankful to you, our audience, for being a part of our amazing journey. For this holiday episode, we asked leaders what they are thankful for and happiest about this Thanksgiving. Key Insights:Thank You Vaccines. Julie Yoo, General Partner at Andreessen Horowitz and co-founder of Kyruus, shared that she is thankful for the advancement in mRNA vaccine technology and vaccine delivery. (1:50)Thank You (Almost) Normalcy. Matthew Dicks is a storytelling coach, bestselling author, and elementary school teacher. He is thankful that some aspects of life, such as teaching in person, have returned close to normal. (2:32)Thank You Science. Ruth Williams-Brinkley, President of Mid-Atlantic States at Kaiser Foundation Health Plan, shared her thankfulness for her family, friends, frontline workers, and researchers that developed the vaccines. (4:05)Thank You Life. Lieutenant General Scott Dingle is the Surgeon General of the United States Army and the Commanding General for the Army Medical Command. He is thankful for his health, family, and opportunity to serve Army Medicine. (8:09)
November 25, 2021
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36: Paying for Health, Not for Healthcare with Felicia Norwood, Executive Vice President and President for Anthem, Inc.’s Government Business Division

Meet Felicia Norwood:Felicia Norwood is the Executive Vice President and President for Anthem‚Äôs Government Business Division. Prior to Anthem, she was the Director for Illinois‚Äô Department of Healthcare & Family Services. She held numerous leadership positions in her nearly 20-year tenure with Aetna. Felicia has over 25 years of commercial and government healthcare operations, strategy, and management experience.¬†Key Insights:Felicia Norwood‚Äôs career has spanned public and private healthcare. In both circumstances, she learned to work across the aisle and build bridges.¬†Stepping Out of the Box.¬†Be curious and ask about other roles you are interested in, even if you aren‚Äôt a traditional fit. (11:54)Value-Based Care.¬†The future of healthcare is whole person health. Value-based contracts are here to stay, and will likely grow. (32:55)You Define You.¬†People will have issues around race and gender, but don‚Äôt let other‚Äôs issues define you. (41:05)Simplify Healthcare.¬†If Felicia could snap her fingers and change one thing, it would be to make healthcare simpler. (41:18)Relevant Links:‚ÄúAnthem Names Felicia Norwood Executive Vice President and President, Government Business Division‚ÄĚ by Business WireRead or listen to an interview that dives deep into Felicia‚Äôs life growing up as part of the Governor Jim Edgar series
November 18, 2021
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35: The Heart of Business with Hubert Joly, Senior Lecturer, Harvard Business School; Former Chairman and CEO, Best Buy; Author, The Heart of Business

Meet Hubert Joly:Hubert Joly is the Former Chairman and CEO of Best Buy, and credited with the organization‚Äôs transformation. He has received numerous recognitions for this role including ‚ÄúTop 100 CEOs in the World‚ÄĚ by Harvard Business Review in 2018 and was named HEC Paris Person of the Year in 2020. Based on his experiences, he published a book, ‚ÄúThe Heart of Business: Leadership Principles for the Next Era of Capitalism,‚ÄĚ that shares the philosophes behind Best Buy‚Äôs turnaround and explores how to put those ideas in practice. Hubert also serves on the boards of Johnson & Johnson and Ralph Lauren, and is a Senior Lecturer of Business Administration at Harvard Business School.Key Insights:Hubert Joly encourages leaders to redefine how we imagine business. Making money is an outcome, but should never be the purpose. Rather, Hubert emphasizes a focus on employee excellence.I Don‚Äôt Know. Hubert encourages leaders to admit when they don‚Äôt have all the answers and ask for help (18:41)Lead with Empathy.¬†Healthcare organizations must ensure front line workers have the tools and environment they need to be the best versions of themselves. (20:14)Noble Purpose.¬†A new era of capitalism requires businesses to embrace all stakeholders and treat profit as an outcome, not the goal. (34:01)Unleashing Human Magic. Hubert describes the environment leaders can create to foster human magic. (36:04)Relevant Links:Check out his websiteRead about Hubert Joly‚Äôs publications, awards, & honors‚ÄúHubert Joly Turned Around Best Buy. Now He‚Äôs Trying to Fix Capitalism.‚ÄĚ By The New York TimesFollow Hubert Joly on Twitter
November 11, 2021
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34: Countdown to Day Zero

In This Episode:We are excited to announce that Think Medium is launching a new show: Day Zero. Day Zero is dedicated sharing the stories of founders, and learning about their journey, leadership, and impact. In honor of our new show, we compiled advice from three founder who we have previously interviewed. It is a sample of what you will hear on Day Zero. Key Insights:Solve a Needed Problem. Todd Cozzens, Founder and Managing Partner of Transformation Capital, encourages founders to seek different perspectives to inform innovation. (3:13)Seek Truth. Aaron Martin is the Executive Vice President and Chief Digital Officer of Providence, and Managing General Partner, Providence Ventures. Aaron advises new CEOs to focus on the truth, and be fact-based. (4:17)Vision for Change. Lynne Chou O’Keefe, Founder and Managing Partner of Define Ventures, describes the all-encompassing passion founders feel (5:18)
November 4, 2021
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33: Shall We Wake the President? with Tevi Troy, Ph.D., Senior Fellow at the Bipartisan Policy Center

Meet Tevi Troy, Ph.D.:Tevi Troy, Ph.D. is a Senior Fellow at the Bipartisan Policy Center as well as a Senior Fellow of the Hudson Institute. He is the founder and CEO of American Health Policy Institute. His career extends into the public sector as a former member of President George W. Bush’s transition team, a Deputy Secretary in HHS, and Acting Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy. Additionally, Dr. Troy is a prolific writer with 4 books on presidencies and over 300 articles commenting on political trends.Key Insights:Dr. Troy is an expert on U.S. presidencies. He shares humorous anecdotes of past presidents to showcase the power of stories, the effect of crisis, and leadership lessons.Inspiration for Writing. Writing is a way to influence policy and perceptions. (7:06)Presidents in Crisis. In moments of crisis, presidents are limited. What they can do is provide leadership, information, and resources at key moments (14:37)People Love Stories. Dr. Troy found that audiences were more engaged when his policy speeches contained stories about presidents, especially personal anecdotes. (23:13)Read, Read, Read. Dr.Troy’s advice for early-stage leaders is to read, and incorporate those concepts and skills into your leadership style. (25:23)
October 28, 2021
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32: Is Jurassic Park Really About Dinosaurs? with Matthew Dicks, Bestselling Author and Storytelling Coach

Meet Matthew Dicks:Matthew Dicks is an internationally bestselling author, columnist, blogger, podcaster, playwright, and elementary school teacher. He is a 50-time Moth StorySLAM champion and 6-time Moth GrandSLAM champion. Matthew and his wife founded Speak Up, and organization that produces storytelling shows through out New England. He teaches storytelling and public speaking in workshops, and consults on storytelling and marketing for large organizations. Matthew has written every day of his life since he was a teenager.¬†Key Insights:Matthew Dicks is an endless supply of stories, and advice to better tell our own.¬†Homework for Life.¬†This assignment cultivates an endless supply of stories, as well as makes each day slower and more meaningful. (8:38)Dinner Test.¬†When you are telling a story, speak to people informally as if you‚Äôre having dinner. (31:12)Corporate Storytelling.¬†Storytelling in the business world tends to be ‚Äúvanilla,‚ÄĚ according to Matthew. Don‚Äôt be afraid to take risks and set yourself apart. (22:04)Be Vulnerable.¬†People are drawn to vulnerability in a way that is hard to understand, until you make the leap. (24:21)
October 21, 2021
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31: Winning the Right Game, with Ron Adner, Professor of Business Administration; Strategy and Entrepreneurship, Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth College

Meet Ron Adner:¬†Ron Adner, Ph.D. is a Professor of Strategy and Entrepreneurship at the Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth College. He is also the Founder and CEO of Strategy Insight Group, which helps clients understand business ecosystems. Dr. Adner has won multiple awards for his research on business strategy and published two books on the subject. His first book, ‚ÄúThe Wide Lens,‚ÄĚ analyzes successful innovators. He recently published a second book on business disruption: ‚ÄúWinning the Right Game: How to Disrupt, Defend, and Deliver in a Changing World.‚Ä̬†Key Insights:¬†Ron Adner, Ph.D. analyzes business strategy from an ecosystem perspective. Businesses need to consider not just what they deliver to consumers, but also structures of interdependence built into the business world.¬†Ecosystem Thinking. Dr. Adner presents a new way of examining business, through a lens of interdependence. (6:17)¬†Achieving Alignment. Healthcare providers are unaware of the power they have to shape ecosystem alignment, and create better systems of health. (25:54)¬†Different Leadership. Different ecosystem settings can require vastly different leadership styles. (29:01)Advice for New Leaders. Healthcare is drowning in new ideas; the catch is determining which ideas are scalable. (31:29)
October 14, 2021
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30: Conserve the Fighting Strength with Lt. Gen. R. Scott Dingle, Surgeon General, U.S. Army; Commanding General, U.S. Army Medical Command

Meet Lieutenant General Scott Dingle:Lieutenant General Scott Dingle is the 45th Surgeon General of the United States Army as well as the Commanding General for the Army Medical Command. He leads over one hundred thousand soldiers and civilians and his command has taken him across the country and the globe. His degrees include Master of Science in Administration from Central Michigan University, Master of Military Arts and Science from the School of Advanced Military Studies and a Master of Science in National Security Strategy from the National War College. Additionally, LTG Dingle is an ordained Itinerate Elder in the African Methodist Episcopal Church.Key Insights:Lieutenant General Dingle shares his leadership lessons and global experiences. For him, it doesn‚Äôt matter if you are a newly commissioned officer or a three-star general, the principles of leadership are the same.What Healthcare is All About. Healthcare is about taking care of people, but healthcare workers need to make sure they are taking care of themselves too. (23:10)Large and Small Teams. Leading large teams requires trusting leaders at every level of command. (27:19)Mentorship. Lieutenant General Dingle discusses the ‚Äúrolodex‚ÄĚ of mentors he‚Äôs sought advice from in his career. (31:31)¬†Response. The Army had to adjust and adapt to help their soldiers and the country combat COVID-19. (38:40)
October 7, 2021
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29: COVID, AI, and the Future of Medicine with Eric Topol, M.D., Founder & Director, Scripps Research Translational Institute

Meet Dr. Eric Topol:Dr. Eric Topol is a cardiologist, scientist, and author. He is the Founder and Director of Scripps Research Translational Institute, and the Executive Vice-President of Scripps Research. He has published over 1200 peer-reviewed articles and is one of the top 10 most cited researchers in medicine. In 2016, Dr. Topol received a $207 million grant from the NIH to lead a portion of All of Us, part of the Precision Medicine Initiative. He is the author of three books on healthcare and is known for his commentary on patient-centered care and artificial intelligence. Key Insights:Dr. Eric Topol is an expert in healthcare personalization and has gained traction on social media for his commentary on COVID-19. Our discussion covers a variety of pandemic response topics, and broadens to the applications of artificial intelligence in the future of healthcare. COVID-19 Response. We discuss testing (13:55), breakthrough cases (16:41), mix and match vaccinations (20:21), hybrid immunity (23:22) and more about COVID-19. Institutional Trust. The pandemic has decreased trust in some government agencies, Dr. Topol describes how it can be won back. (27:10) Artificial Intelligence. Dr. Topol dives into the application of artificial intelligence and deep learning in the future of healthcare. (31:31) Democratization of Medicine. Patients yearn for more control over their care and health data, and are the future of healthcare innovation. (42:11)
September 30, 2021
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28: The Mind of an Entrepreneur with Todd Cozzens, Co-founder & Managing Partner, Transformation Capital

In this episode, we sit down with Todd Cozzens, a Co-founder & Managing Partner of Transformation Capital. The conversation explores leadership lessons, management, transformational investing, and more.
September 23, 2021
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27: Affordability: The Challenge of the Decade, featuring Mark Miller, Ph.D., Marty Makary, M.D., Nancy-Ann DeParle, Seema Verma, Elder Granger, M.D., MG, USA, (RET.)

In Episode 27:This mash up episode dives into affordability. We hear clips from five healthcare experts to discuss the importance of affordability, and potential solutions. We gain perspectives on Medicaid, Medicare, and Military health. There are many potential solutions to address affordability, the challenge is deciding which models work together in our complex healthcare system and aggressively pursuing them.¬†Key Insights:Challenge of the decade. Mark Miller, Ph.D., VP Healthcare, Arnold Ventures, explains how affordability is impacting patients. (2:27)Practice variation, within boundaries. Marty Makary, M.D., MPH, Author, ‚ÄúThe Price We Pay,‚ÄĚ Surgical Oncologist and Professor, John Hopkins University of Medicine, Bloomberg School of Public Health describes how ‚Äúappropriateness measures‚ÄĚ could decrease Medicare costs. (5:51)Medi-Cal. Nancy-Ann DeParle, Managing Partner and Co-founder, Consonance Capital Partners, and former Deputy Chief of Staff to President Barack Obama, references California‚Äôs Medicaid model. (7:32)Healthy Indiana. Seema Verma, Former CMS Administrator, describes Indiana‚Äôs unique Medicaid Expansion. (10:02)TRICARE for all. Elder Granger, M.D., MG, USA, Retired, Former Deputy Director, TRICARE, CEO, The 5Ps, discusses whether TRICARE‚Äôs model could work for the country, a model which promotes preventive healthcare. (12:00)
September 16, 2021
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26: Experience Across the Board, with Mindy Mount, Board Member and Advisor

Meet Mindy Mount:Mindy Mount currently serves on a variety of boards of directors including Cerner Corporation, Technicolor, The Learning Care Group, Group 9 Acquisition Corp., and Zayo. She has experience in public, private, and non-profit governance. She has a diverse background in finance and technology, having worked for Microsoft, Time Warner, and on Wall Street. She received an MBA from Harvard, and has a degree in Actuarial Sciences from the University of Wisconsin-Madison.Key Insights:Mindy Mount started her career with a strong analytical background. She has a passion for business and making businesses better. This led to her ample experience in governance. Qualities of a Good Board Member. Mindy describes the qualities that make good board members, including expertise, courage, and listening. (27:20) Management vs Governance. It’s easy to be a board member when things are going well, the line between management and governance may become blurred during a crisis. (33:24)Difficult Decisions. The most difficult, and often most emotional, decisions are around people. (45:50)Pathway to the Boardroom. Mindy discusses how professionals can gain the knowledge they need to become board members. (47:34)
September 9, 2021
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25: Administrator of Change with Seema Verma, Former Administrator, Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS)

In this episode, we sit down with Seema Verma, a former administrator of the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS). The conversation explores implementing the free market in healthcare, Medicare Advantage, fee for service, and more.
September 2, 2021
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24: Listen, Understand, Communicate, Repeat, featuring Kevin Sharer, Shantanu Agrawal, M.D., Adam Bryant, and Marisa Porges, Ph.D

In Episode 24:¬†For this special mash-up episode we dive into interpersonal skills: what they are and how they can make you a better leader. We hear clips from four speakers who hold unique leadership backgrounds across health and other industries. This episode focuses on the particular skills of listening, communication, and teamwork. These skills are necessary for up-and-coming leaders, and they can be further developed at any leadership stage.¬†Key Insights:¬†Listening as an Art Form. Kevin Sharer, former Chairman and CEO, Amgen and co-author of ‚ÄúThe CEO Test,‚ÄĚ describes how he learned that he needed to be a better listener. (2:45)¬†Hearing the Team. Dr. Shantanu Agrawal, Chief Health Officer, Anthem, touches on how listening guides leaders when they take on new roles. (5:07)¬†Simplifying the complex. Listen to Adam Bryant, journalist, Managing Director, The ExCo group and co-author of ‚ÄúThe CEO Test,‚ÄĚ discuss how to be a better communicator. (6:42)¬†¬†Empowering Yourself and Others. Marisa Porges, Ph.D., Head of School, The Baldwin School and author of ‚ÄúWhat Girls Need,‚ÄĚ discusses how leadership principles influence teamwork. (8:41)
August 26, 2021
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23: Leadership is About Solving the Right Problems with Ruth Williams-Brinkley, Regional President, Kaiser Permanente, Mid-Atlantic

Meet Ruth Williams-Brinkley:Ruth Williams-Brinkley is Regional President, Kaiser Permanente, Mid-Atlantic. In this role, Ruth oversees all of Kaiser Permanente’s care delivery and health plan operations in Washington, D.C., and suburban Maryland, Baltimore, and Northern Virginia. Previously, Ruth served as CEO for multiple health systems, including Kentucky’s largest integrated health system, KentuckyOne. She began her career as a nurse, earning a MS in Nursing Administration from DePaul University.Key Insights:Ruth’s experience spans from direct patient care, to operations management across four states and districts. She is well-versed in Kaiser Permanente’s unique patient care and payment model, and oversees the building of healthy ecosystems around the patient.Filling Gaps with Technology. Ruth discusses the platform developed by Unite Us and how it addresses social-determinants of health. (32:27)Leading People. Healthcare is full of promising technology, but at its core, patient care and leadership are about people. (10:10)Problem Solving. Ruth explains how her background influenced her career and developed her ability to problem-solve. (34:49)Mentorship. Mentors can provide powerful, early-career advice. And once you are established, you can return the favor to others. (37:58)
August 19, 2021
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22: Acing 'The CEO Test,' with Kevin Sharer, Former Chairman and CEO, Amgen; Author, “The CEO Test”

Meet Kevin Sharer:Kevin Sharer led Amgen for 20 years, first as President and then as CEO. He also co-authored The CEO Test: Master the Challenges That Make or Break All Leaders. Kevin served on several boards of directors and on the faculty of Harvard Business School. Kevin received a Bachelor of Science in aeronautical engineering from the U.S. Naval Academy, an MS in aeronautical engineering from the US Naval Postgraduate School, and an MBA from the University of Pittsburgh's Joseph M. Katz Graduate School of Business.Key Insights: Kevin began his leadership journey in Navy submarines, translating his technical skills and interest in personal growth to his roles as President and eventually CEO of Amgen. He shares timeless knowledge about improving oneself and the skills necessary to be a successful CEO or board member.Governance. It’s not enough to just show up. Being a good board member means balance, building relationships, and making the tough calls. (46:09)Passing the CEO Test. Kevin discusses what selecting a quality CEO entails, including asking all the right questions and trusting your gut. (24:14)Asking the Right Question. Diving deep and asking the right people questions will give you all the information you need to make quality judgements. (15;59)Listening as an Art Form. The biggest revelation in Kevin’s career was the importance of listening, and how he needed to be a better listener. (28:21)
August 12, 2021
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21: Hot Seat: Lessons Learned While Leading a Great American Company with Jeff Immelt, Venture Partner, New Enterprise Associates; Author, ‚ÄúHot Seat‚ÄĚ

Meet Jeff Immelt:Jeff Immelt served as CEO of General Electric (GE) for 16 years and CEO of GE Healthcare for four years. The leadership lessons that he learned during his time as CEO of GE are told in Hot Seat: What I Learned Leading A Great American Company. He also chaired the President’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness under the Obama administration. He is a currently a Venture Partner at New Enterprise Associates (NEA). Jeff has a B.A. degree in applied mathematics from Dartmouth College and an M.B.A. from Harvard University.Key Insights:During his first week as CEO of GE, Jeff was faced with the 9/11 terrorist attacks followed seven years later by the Great Recession. Jeff shares how he managed GE through these crises.Why Join GE? I wanted to be an operator. Unlike many in my Harvard Business School class, I did not want to be a consultant or an investment banker.  (10:01)How Did You Assess the Response to 9/11? All business leaders were asked to provide a snapshot of what still works, what does not work, and how we should anticipate and respond to change. (21:39)Healthcare Lessons Learned.  Jeff learned that there are many terrific people in healthcare working to help others. Healthcare is behind other industries in application of business principles. (12:33)Governance. Size of boards is important.  At one time, GE had 18 board members and it was just too big because it’s easy to lose connectivity and focus. (34:43)
August 5, 2021
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20: What Girls Need: How to Raise Bold, Courageous, and Resilient Women with Marisa Porges, Ph.D. Head of School, The Baldwin School

Meet Our Guest:Dr. Marisa Porges is Head of School of The Baldwin School, a private school for girls with 500 students. Dr. Porges was a Fellow in the Obama White House, a visiting fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School and the Council on Foreign Relations, and served in the U.S. Navy as a naval flight officer. She is the author of What Girls Need: How to Raise Bold, Courageous, and Resilient Women. She received her B.A. from Harvard University, an M.Sc. from the London School of Economics, and a doctorate from King’s College London.Key Insights:Dr. Marisa Porges left Harvard to fly jets in the U.S. Navy during a time when there were few women in naval aviation. She shares real-life stories and leadership lessons gained from her time as a Navy pilot. As part of a research project, Dr. Porges interviewed Al-Qaeda military personnel in the field and discusses the risks involved and the leadership profile for a Jewish-American woman in that situation.Flying Jets. Leadership lessons are inherent from her aviation career in the U.S. Navy including with small teams, big teams in moments of true physician risk, emotional risk and under lots of pressure. (13:19)Cultivating Competitive Spirit. Sports nurture a competitive drive that transfers into professional careers. By the end of high school, two-thirds of girls will have stopped playing sports because of social norms and peer pressure. (36:45)Collaborative Problem-Solving. Studies show that girls have an edge. We should figure out how to make this core skill a competitive advantage. (37:57)Adaptability. Adaptability is a skill, a talent and a superpower that should be routinely practiced. (46:47)
July 29, 2021
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19: Leadership Lessons from the Corner Office with Adam Bryant, Managing Director, The ExCo Group; Author, ‚ÄėThe CEO Test‚Äô

In this episode, we sit down with Adam Bryant, Managing Director of the ExCo Group and Author of The CEO Test. The conversation explores characteristics of successful CEOs, the idea of ‚Äúnatural leaders,‚ÄĚ priorities versus outcomes, and more.
July 22, 2021
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18, Part 2: How Technology is Improving Public Health, with Karen DeSalvo, M.D., MPH, MSc, Chief Health Officer, Google

In Part 1, Dr. DeSalvo shared with us her formative years from considering ballet as a profession to deciding upon medicine and her joy in leading public health as Commissioner of Health in New Orleans. Today's episode, part 2, explores her federal government service as Assistant Secretary of Health and National Coordinator for Health Information Technology. Dr. DeSalvo also shares why she accepted the offer to join Google as Chief Health Officer. She reviews the role that Google played during the COVID-19 crisis and describes how it drew on her experiences and understanding of public health.
July 15, 2021
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18, Part 1: How Technology is Improving Public Health, with Karen DeSalvo, M.D., MPH, MSc, Chief Health Officer, Google

In this episode, Dr. DeSalvo shares how she became interested in politics while serving as the Assistant Secretary for Health with the Obama administration, a job that lives at the nexus of science, policy, and politics. She has spent her career focusing on improving health and eliminating disparities and gives insight into how her position at Google will allow her to utilize new technologies to achieve her passion.
July 13, 2021
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17: What can Healthcare Learn from an Ultra-Luxury Brand? Featuring Jason Herthel, President & Chief Operating Officer, Montage International

In this episode, we sit down with Jason Herthel, the President & Chief Operating Officer of Montage International. The conversation explores Jason’s philosophy of leadership development, guest satisfaction, crisis management, and more.
July 8, 2021
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16: Technology, Leadership, and Quality: Healthcare's Anthem with Shantanu Agrawal, M.D., Chief Health Officer, Anthem, Inc.

In this episode, we sit down with Shantanu Agrawal, the Chief Health Officer at Anthem. The conversation explores the provider burden of collecting and reporting multiple quality measures, the challenges and resolution, Shantanu’s top two characteristics of a great leader, and more.
July 1, 2021
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15: On the Cutting Edge with Aaron Martin, EVP, Chief Digital Officer, Providence & Managing General Partner, Providence Ventures

In this episode, we sit down with Aaron Martin, the Executive Vice President, Chief Digital Officer, and a Providence and Managing General Partner of Providence Ventures. The conversation explores the relationship between passion and vocation, characteristics of a leader, digital healthcare, and more.
June 24, 2021
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14: Funding the Future of Health Innovation with Dawn Owens, Chief Executive Officer at TripleTree Holdings

In this episode, we sit down with Dawn Owens, the Chief Executive Officer at TripleTree Holdings. The conversation explores her transition from CEO to president, how 2020 was the most successful year in her company’s history, diversity in the workplace, and more.
June 17, 2021
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13: Polling our Evolving Attitudes Towards Healthcare with Bill McInturff, Co-Founder and Partner, Public Opinion Strategies

In this episode, we sit down with Bill McInturff, co-founder and partner, Public Opinion Strategies. The conversation explores Bill’s career path through multiple stories, how he counsels leaders, where consumer experience fits, the increasing difficulty in political surveying, a path out of today’s highly partisan environment, and more.
June 10, 2021
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12: Affordability in the Price We Pay with Marty Makary, M.D., M.P.H., Chief, Islet Transplant Surgery Professor of Surgery, Johns Hopkins Medicine

In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Marty Makary, the Chief Islet Transplant Surgery Professor of Surgery at John Hopkins Medicine. The conversation explores the appropriateness of care, herd immunity, the microbiome as the big frontier in healthcare, and more.
June 3, 2021
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11: Jeff Bezos' ‚ÄėGrand Challenge‚Äô of Healthcare with Brad Stone, Author of ‚ÄėAmazon Unbound,‚Äô Senior Executive Editor of Global Technology, Bloomberg News

In this episode, we sit down with Brad Stone, the author of Amazon Unbound. Building off of the book, the conversation explores the leadership of Jeff Bezos, Amazon in healthcare, leadership changes within Amazon, and more.
May 27, 2021
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10: When Data Becomes Personal with Kaveh Safavi, M.D., J.D., Senior Managing Director, Accenture

In this episode, we sit down with Kaveh Safavi, the Senior Managing Director at Accenture. The conversation explores the importance of listening, how the goal of healthcare is to minimize the need for healthcare, the ownership and privacy of data, and more.
May 20, 2021
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09: Aligning Healthcare with Consumer Strategy with Gregory Carpenter, Ph.D., Harold T. Martin Professor of Marketing

The Gary Bisbee Show offers the following key insights:¬†Professor Carpenter came from a family of physicians instilling healthcare knowledge at an early age. He has leveraged his marketing expertise and focus on consumers by conducting a research project with five large health systems that will be published in the near future. Professor Carpenter shared his view on the difference between Starbucks and healthcare providers in delivering personalized services.¬†What sparked Greg‚Äôs interest in marketing and teaching? (1:52)If he wasn‚Äôt a professor, what would he be? (2:30)Greg‚Äôs MBA course, ‚ÄėConsumers, Culture, and Leadership‚Äô (5:23)Successful leaders after COVID-19 (21:26)Biggest changes in marketing post-pandemic (19:36)Personalization of Data (12:45)Expectations of Healthcare Delivery Systems (14:42)¬†
May 13, 2021
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08: Hitting a Home Run with Customers with Bill Lentsch, Chief Customer Experience Officer, Delta Air Lines

In this episode, we sit down with Bill Lentsch, Chief Customer Experience Officer at Delta Air Lines. Delta and healthcare have much in common since both industries are highly regulated, competitive, and have a dependence on data and its accuracy. Bill shared his views on structuring the customer experience role, operating a customer-centric organization, and more.
May 6, 2021
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07: Healthcare Data: ‚ÄúSeamless, Modern, Instantaneous‚ÄĚ with Don Rucker, M.D., Former National Coordinator for Health Information Technology, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services

In Episode 7 we talk extensively with Dr. Don Rucker who recently finished serving as director of the Office of National Coordinator (ONC). We discuss his unique background which prepared him for this position, the role of the ONC in healthcare, his accomplishments while serving the ONC, the impacts of the HITECH Act and Cures Act, Big Data, and much more. Join us as we delve into this fascinating blend of technology and healthcare.
April 29, 2021
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06: Wisdom from Our ‚ÄėElder‚Äô with Elder Granger, M.D., MG, USA, (RET.), President & CEO of the 5P‚Äôs LLC

In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Elder Granger, a physician and retired major general in the US Army who is now the CEO of The 5 Ps, a consulting company focused on healthcare, education, and leadership. In this conversation we will explore General Granger's experiences in the military, his path into leadership, thoughts on leadership development, keys of decision making, roles of board members, and characteristics of a leader in a crisis.
April 22, 2021
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05: A Long-Term National Strategy with Julie Gerberding, M.D., M.P.H., EVP & Chief Patient Officer, Merck

In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Julie Gerberding who holds a faculty position at UCSF, lead the CDC, and is a senior executive at Merck. We’ll uncover what led to Julie’s success, her take on the speed of development of COVID vaccines, vaccine hesitancy, the decision criteria she used as she made her career moves, and what leadership lessons she learned along the way.
April 15, 2021
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04: Leading the Intersection of Healthcare Politics & Policy with Mark Miller, Ph.D., Executive Vice President, Health Care, Arnold Ventures and Former Executive Director, MedPAC

In this episode, we sit down with Mark Miller, Executive Vice President of Health Care at Arnold Ventures and the Former Executive Director of MedPAC. We’ll explore how Mark defined the position of executive director at MedPAC, significantly influenced federal health policy at MedPAC, his current influence at Arnold Ventures, and a discussion of his purpose and agenda.
April 8, 2021
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03: Payment is Policy with Nancy-Ann DeParle, Managing Partner & Co-founder, Consonance Capital Partners; former Deputy Chief of Staff to President Barack Obama; proud ACA architect; former CMS Administrator

As part of the Health Policy Series, Gary speaks with Nancy-Ann DeParle, a partner and co-founder of Consonance Capital Partners and former assistant to President Barack Obama. In this conversation, we will explore lessons has Nancy-Ann learned by leading programs at both the federal and state levels, the primary role of a board member, and more.
April 1, 2021
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02: Walmart Health: Enabling Affordable, Accessible Healthcare with Marcus Osborne, SVP, Walmart Health

In this episode, we sit down with Marcus Osborne, Senior Vice President of Walmart Health. With nearly 4,800 stores in the US, if Walmart decided to provide health care in a big way, healthcare in the US would change forever. How can Walmart apply its general merchandising knowledge to health care? We'll explore that in today's conversation along with what Walmart Health is learning, how satisfied customers are with the services and price, and what Walmart Health's plans are for expansion.
March 29, 2021
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01: A Remarkable Undertaking, with Alex Gorsky, Chairman and CEO, Johnson & Johnson

In this inaugural episode of The Gary Bisbee Show, Gary welcomes Johnson & Johnson CEO Alex Gorsky. Alex and Gary discuss the latest news surrounding COVID-19, the rollout of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, and how the past year has changed how the health economy will operate moving forward.
March 11, 2021
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About The Gary Bisbee Show

The Gary Bisbee Show is a weekly podcast discussing how leading health system CEOs and healthcare leaders are navigating the evolving healthcare landscape while leading high-performing teams and driving innovation across the industry.


Gary Bisbee, Ph.D.

Gary Bisbee, Ph.D.

Founder and CEO, Think Medium

Dr. Gary Bisbee’s leadership positions have spanned Wall Street, academia, health policy and entrepreneurial ventures. He is Founder, Chairman and CEO of Think Medium, which explores learning and leadership through peer-to-peer conversations.

He is a frequent speaker and facilitator for executives and boards of directors. Gary is well published and he most recently co-authored, n=1: How the Uniqueness of Each Individual is Transforming Healthcare. His weekly video/audio podcast, The Gary Bisbee Show, pursues his interests in learning and leadership and features guests of significant accomplishment.

He has been a founder or leader of five venture companies. Most recently, he was Co-founder, Chairman and CEO of The Health Management Academy. He has been a member of multiple public and not-for-profit boards, and he currently sits on four boards, including Cerner Corporation. He is an advisor to investment funds.

Gary holds an M.B.A. in finance and healthcare from the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, and a Ph.D. in chronic disease epidemiology from Yale University, where his dissertation was part of the development of DRGs. His undergraduate degree is from North Central College.

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