Docs Outside The Box

Ordinary Doctors Doing Extraordinary Things

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171 – Darko Real Estate series – My tenants turned the garage into a bar

What’s good everyone!! “Don’t make emotional decisions about real estate,” and “Numbers matter!” These are going to be the important takeaways from today’s episode. Weeks ago, we told you that we wanted to document our journey into purchasing our first investment property together. Before we get into all the number crunching, calculus shit; you need to hear about our first experiences with real estate. Dr. Renee had positive experiences around real estate. Me, not so much. It started with an emotional decision that led me down a 13-year rabbit hole of bad mistakes. I get it, you’re probably thinking “Yeah that’s not going to be me.” However, it’s really important to understand how someone can make these decisions. Consider this a cautionary tale!!    Sponsored by: Money Insights To learn how to efficiently build an opportunity fund to purchase your next investment property, check out the Investment Optimizer video at or you can text the keyword “Darko” to 31996.
July 10, 2020
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170 – Dr. X Files #2 – I became a martyr for medicine and my career

What’s good everyone!! Get your popcorn ready. Get comfortable. We got a new episode of Dr. X Files. Remember, these are episodes of anonymous doctors speaking their truths in a format that makes them most comfortable. This episode will blow your mind like the first one. When people talk about a “food chain” in medicine – let’s just say Doctor X is at the top of this food chain. She is highly specialized, well-compensated, and extremely satisfied with her career/lifestyle balance. This wasn’t the case a couple of years ago. Decisions we all make to survive residency, can turn into pathologic lifestyle choices later as an attending. Well, this caught up to Dr. X early as an attending. Some of these decisions are rooted in people-pleasing and avoidance of conflict. Either way, don’t judge we’ve all been there. Dr. X explicitly details how her decisions led her to sign a contract that was not very detailed, felt uncomfortable asking for market value for her skills, and put self-care on the backburner.  She also talks about how her reputation was almost ruined. Dr. X ain’t no punk though. She became the heroine of her own story and gives a masterclass on how she saved her career and is living her best life!!!
July 6, 2020
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169 – Ask Dr. Nii – Questions from International Medical Student Grads

What’s good everyone! For this Ask Dr. Nii segment, Dr. Nina Lum jumps on to help answer questions from our international medical graduate students. We’re going to answer two questions: 1. In what order should I take my step tests, especially in light of Step 1 going to pass/fail?; 2. Can I realistically get into a US – based orthopedic surgery residency as an IMG? Resources: The IMG Roadmap Podcast
June 26, 2020
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168 – Pizza & Beer, Hockey, Covid-19 with Dr. Kyeremanteng

Dr. Kwadwo is on the hot seat today so we can learn more about him, why he started his show, and what are the differences in responses to COVID 19 between the US and Canada. 
June 22, 2020
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167 – Ask Dr. Nii – I didn’t match into a residency! What now?!?!

It’s been close to 13 years since I went through the match process. So, I brought on Dr. Berry Pierre to drop some knowledge for our listeners!
June 19, 2020
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166 – Dr. Jason Campbell on going viral & not being scared to use his platform for social change

We got Dr. Jason Campbell a.k.a. “The Tik Tok Doctor” jumping on the show today! We chopped it up talking about how he went viral with his videos and how he is currently using his newfound platform to shed light on controversial issues. There’s a lot discussed in this episode. I hope you enjoy it!! **Note: We recorded this episode 3 days prior to George Floyd’s murder.
June 15, 2020
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165 – Topics Outside the Box: Bullets go deeper than you think

I’m bringing two powerhouse Trauma Surgeons to chat about the outside of the box ways they’re connecting with their communities. Dr. Laurie Punch practices at Barnes – Jewish Hospital in St. Louis, Missouri. Dr. Brian Williams practices at the University of Chicago in Chicago, Illinois. We’re focusing on how violence is a public health issue and the long-lasting effects it has on communities.
June 8, 2020
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164 – My timeline for knowing my place in America

This is a special solo episode. If this resonates with you, share with others. Also appreciate your feed back. Go to and click on “Ask Me A Question” to leave a message on SpeakPipe.
June 3, 2020
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163 – We’re finally going house hunting

What’s good everyone!! That’s right! We are house hunting, but not for our permanent residence. We are jumping into real estate, trying to do our passive income thang! Here’s another cliché…we’re trying to build generational wealth. In all seriousness, this episode is the first of many in series where you’ll get to see what its like for the Darkos to go from hating real estate to future real estate moguls. What better way to keep us accountable by having you all along for the journey? Education is power, so we decided to take the SemiRetiredMD course: Zero to Freedom Through Cashflowing Rentals. We definitely vouch for it and recommend you check it out: (Disclosure: This is an affiliate link)
May 29, 2020
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162 – Being a physician, a lawyer, and high-end bag makerwith Julie Cantor

What’s good! Dr. Julie Cantor joins me all the way from the west coast to talk about her outside the box lifestyle. Dr. Cantor is physician, lawyer, and entrepreneur. She teaches at UCLA School of Law and focuses on the interplay of medicine, ethics, and law. Just as interesting, her company (Harlen) creates modern high-end work bags for women.
May 25, 2020
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161 – Believe in yourself… Your life depends on it with David Fajgenbaum

What’s good! On the surface, David Fajgenbaum appears to have it all. He’s married, has a child, is an Assistant Professor of Medicine at The University of Pennsylvania. You don’t have to dig too deep to learn the determination of this man. In medical school, David had death knocking on his door 5 times after being diagnosed with the extremely rare Castleman disease. Running out of treatment options, he took matters into his own hands by developing the Castleman Disease Collaborative Network, and also using an untested drug for his condition on himself which turned out to be the cure for his disease. So, sitting on the hot seat for Docs Outside the Box ain’t a thing to him! He’s on to talk about his amazing story of persistence, believing in yourself, and creating your own silver linings in life! He’s an author too! His book is Chasing My Cure: A Doctor’s Race To Turn Hope into Action
May 18, 2020
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160 – Smart Financial Decisions for the Pandemic

What’s good everyone!! This pandemic has definitely changed the rules for a lot of doctors out there. Always known as a stable profession, these last couple of months have shown that you can’t have all of your eggs in one basket. Jamila Souffrant, Host of Journey to Launch Podcast, jumps in to talk about smart financial decisions we should be making right now.
May 11, 2020
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159 – Ask Dr. Nii – Should I quit my residency to become and entrepreneur?

We got a juicy one for you all! On this episode, Drs Nii & Renee answer questions submitted by listeners. We’re helping an anesthesiologist who has over $600,000 in student loan debt pay off his loans as quick as possible. We also answer if a Family Medicine intern should quit her residency to start building her wellness and nutrition business. Also stay tuned for our opinions on Vice President Mike Pence visiting The Mayo Clinic without a mask on. Trust me, you don’t want to miss this episode!!   Send your questions or comments to: IG - @drniidarko Speakpipe – Email: [email protected]   The episode is brought to you by PatientPop. Check them out at
May 8, 2020
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158 – Dr. X Files #1 – Why is my salary decreasing!?!? Didn’t our practice get bought by a Hedge Fund??!

What’s good everyone, New series!!! Sometimes you have to meet doctors where they’re at. It takes a lot to get on a podcast and be 100% honest about how your practice and put your name on it. So, I’ve started a series where I interview doctors who have important stories for us to learn from – they just would rather stay anonymous. I don’t have a problem with it, and neither should you. Information is power, and we got a ways to learn before we can say we’re in the driver’s seat with healthcare. My very first guest is a physician who trained at one of the finest medical institutions in world and decided to join a private practice. He lets us in to what it was like for a hedge fund / venture capitalist firm to purchase his group and the drastic effects it had afterwards. Doc keeps it real on this episode. He also talked about: Making hard decisions between happiness and the almighty dollar His attending’s thoughts on locum tenens What does being a partner mean in private practice The warning signs we all need to pay attention to when in practice. The episode is brought to you by PatientPop. Check them out at
May 4, 2020
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157 – Can you really be forced as a locum to self-quarantine for 14 days before working?

What’s up and Head nods to everyone! Dr. Alexea Gaffney, who is an Infectious Disease Specialist, jumps on this episode with me to dispel some myths and speak truth to some fears that we as medical professionals should take seriously. Dr. Gaffney is triple board certified in Internal Medicine, Pediatrics and Infectious Disease. Currently, she practices with Stony Brook Medicine in Long Island, NY. This isn’t your usual ho-hum episode on COVID 19. Dr. Alexea shows her Brookly, NY roots and brings it to us straight with no chaser. You don’t want to miss this one. Disclaimer: This episode was recorded in March 2020 – some guidelines have changed. Please always refer to CDC website for the most up-to-date guidelines involving COVID 19.   Follow Dr. Gaffney: FB/IG/Twitter: @Dralexea
April 28, 2020
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156 – We both got Covid-19! What now?!

What’s good everyone! It’s been a while, but we’re back! That’s right, Dr. Renee joins me on this episode to discuss our experience with Covid-19. Here’s the other topics we’ll be touching on: Thoughts on how being affected affects our family structure Doctors passing away from the virus Microscope on health inequities Should medical providers tolerate lack of PPE Providers being fired for speaking up on lack of supplies Should docs be getting stimulus checks
April 21, 2020
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155 – Mom, I know I’m a doctor but can you front me rent money this week?

What’s good everyone! Episode 125 guest Dr. Lynn Marie Morski jumps on the show to share some major changes to her career and life. As you know she prides herself as the “Quitting Evangelist” and since we last talked has stayed true to form and moved on from her position at the VA. We talk about what it’s like to make major transitions in her career when she doesn’t “have everything figured out.” This is the episode you want to listen to if you’ve felt trapped or not sure what the next step in your transition process is. Resources: Medscape article Plant Medicine Podcast You’re a Badass at Making Money
March 23, 2020
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154 – Keeping it 100% with your Financial Advisor

What’s good! Today you’re going to hear from Ryan Inman who is a fee-only financial advisor and host of the Financial Residency podcast. As you know, I’m a big fan of fee-only advisors and in this episode, we talk about the real relationship you should have with your financial advisor. Not only will you learn how to work with one but also how not to follow an advisor blindly.   Resources: Allen Roth – How a Second Grader Beats Wall Street Thomas Stanley - The Millionaire Next Door Corey Fawcett – The Doctor’s Guide to Eliminating Debt J L Collins - The Simple Path to Wealth The Bogleheads’ Guide to Investing Financial Residency Book Physician Wealth Services
March 16, 2020
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153 – Is our biggest strength our greatest weakness?

It’s well known that doctors put patients first even though it may have negative social effects on doctors. Whether we call it professionalism or an edict, this way of life has allowed us to be viewed as unbiased advocates for our patients.   Dr. Danielle Ofri joins me on this episode to discuss an Op-Ed she wrote in the NY Times last year discussing if our professionalism is being taken advantage of by hospitals.  Dr. Danielle Ofri  is an internist at Bellevue Hospital and NYU School of Medicine. She writes regularly for the New York Times, Slate Magazine and other publications about medicine and the doctor-patient relationship. Dr. Ofri is the author of five books, including, most recently, “What Patients Say; What Doctors Hear.” Her TED talks include Deconstructing Perfection and Fear: A Necessary Emotion.  
March 9, 2020
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152 – 3 Things Professionals can do to make Smarter Money Decisions with Chris Browning

I’m chopping it up with Chris Browning, host of the popular show Popcorn Finance. Each week he discusses finance with amazing guests in about the time it takes to make a bag of popcorn. Topics range from understanding the basics of investing, all the way to his love of tiny homes. On today’s show, we’re going to talk about 3 things busy professionals can do right now to take control of their finances. Also, we’re going to talk about why doctors have a target on their backs.    Resources: Popcorn Finance   Get in touch with Chris: Instagram Twitter Facebook  
March 2, 2020
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151 – Ask Dr. Nii – USMLE Step 1 Now Pass / Fail

What’s good everyone! We’re covering a lot on today’s segment of Ask Dr. Nii! The topics we go over are: Balancing locum tenens with infants and two full-time working parents Knowing all the different health care positions that exist, if you could do it again would you go to medical school? USMLE changes from 3-digit score to Pass / Fail outcome How to start a locum tenens company
February 28, 2020
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150 – An honest convo about weight loss and stress for Docs

So back in the days of medical school, I used to be able to brag about eating a BigMac and then be able to run a 5 minute mile on the treadmill. Well those days are long gone. I can’t run anywhere near that fast and I still got the fast food habit. To make matters worse, how easy is it to get something healthy while on night shift and its 3AM?!! I invited Dr. Siobahn Key to help us understand that weight is a common struggle for physicians and we often feel that we should have it figured it. Let’s get real - there are plenty of aspects of our job that make it easy to gain and hard to lose weight. Dr. Siobhan Key is both a Family Physician, and Obesity Medicine and  Weight Loss Coach for Physicians. She is the host of a weekly podcast Weight Solutions for Physicians. Her passion is helping people learn to stop emotional eating and feel confident in their ability to manage their weight for the rest of their life.   Disclaimer: By listening to this podcast, you agree not to use this podcast as medical advice to treat any medical condition in either yourself or others, including but not limited to patients that you are treating.The website’s content is not a substitute for professional medical care and diagnosis. None of the information should be performed or otherwise used without clearance from your physician or health care provider. The information contained within is not intended to provide specific health advice, or any other advice whatsoever, for any individual or company and should not be relied upon in that regard.
February 24, 2020
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149 – Dr. Randall Wolf – Heart Surgeon & Magician

What’s good everyone!!! In this episode, I’m talking with Dr. Randall Wolf who is a cardiothoracic surgeon as well as a magician. We talk about how he balances both clinical medicine and life as a magician. He even talks about when David Copperfield called him in his operating room. There are a ton of nuggets to take away from this episode. I can’t wait for you all to listen!
February 17, 2020
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148 – DOTB VS Day 5 – Learn the Science On How To Be More Respected Among Your Peers

We’re now on Day 5 of the Summit, Over the last 4 days you have heard from guests who recognized normal was not enough. They all wanted MORE and pushed back on the traditional ways of thinking. As a result they have found peace, happiness, and wealth. Today you’re going to hear the science and research behind these mental breakthroughs.. Nationally bestselling author and behavioral investigator Vanessa Van Edwards joins me today to discuss how to change behavior to be more successful. Her book, Captivate: The Science of Succeeding with People has been translated into 15 different languages. Currently, she works with entrepreneurs, growing businesses, and trillion dollar companies. Vanessa has also been featured in numerous media outlets including CNN, BBC, and The Today Show.  We’re tackling some scenarios doctors face commonly including: Imposter Syndrome Physician Burnout How to be more likeable without being a pushover Resources: Science of People
January 24, 2020
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147 – DOTB VS Day 4 – Set Up the Game Plan to Maximize Your Performance in Career & Life

Are you comfortable with who you see in the mirror? This is a tough question to ask yourself when you feel like you’ve hit a plateau in life. Today, be prepared to get vulnerable and ask yourself these additional questions:   Am I really doing the best I can do? Am I following someone else’s plan? What’s the difference between success and fulfillment? How can I get the most out of my career and my life?   On today’s episode, Dr. Brad Bellard is jumping on to talk to us about finding purpose, clarity, and resilience. He’s a talented speaker, writer, and physician (Board-certified in both Emergency Medicine & Sports Medicine). He focuses on coaching successful professionals on the principles and tools needed to achieve even higher levels of results, purpose, and fulfillment. His book Elite -  A Modern Success Guide to Purpose and Peak Performance was an Amazon Best seller! Be warned, Dr. Brad gives it you raw and uncut - so let’s get uncomfortable together AND LEVEL UP!!!   Resources: Miracle Morning
January 23, 2020
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146 – DOTB VS Day 3 – Learn How To Better Allocate Your Time & Money So You Can Start Living a Life Where You Call the Shots!

Today is Day 3 of the summit and I’ve got a special interview for you. Did you know that there is a growing movement of individuals and couples retiring in their 40s and for some even earlier? This is called being Financially Independent & Retiring Early movement. It’s safe to say that joining the FIRE movement requires not just discipline but a huge change in mindset. My next guests are Christina and Amon Browning, who recently on their popular YouTube channel announced they retired in their early 40s. They called in all the way from Lisbon, Portugal, and we’re going to hear the nuts and bolts of mindset and lifestyle changes necessary to reach this feat. Some of the moves they made included saving over 70% of their income, making smart decisions with real estate, and having a “can-do” mentality. If you haven’t discovered their YouTube channel then you are missing out. They’re videos are amazing and educational. They just dropped their FIRE workbook, which is a step by step guide to getting to financial independence. ….cuz a brother is giving away free copies of this badboy. We’re using this and are on our way…. Embedded video:   Resources: Rich Dad, Poor Dad The Intelligent Investor The Bogleheads’ Guide to Investing Freakonomics
January 22, 2020
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145 – DOTB VS Day 2 – Work Smarter, Not Harder by Embracing Passive Streams of Income

We’re on to Day 2 of the Docs Outside the Box Virtual Summit. Yesterday, we heard from Dr. Carmen Brown on how leaving the US to practice overseas both revitalized her career and her mental well- being. Today we’re shifting to creating wealth for yourself but not through your job. A lot of people who have detached from their 9 to 5 refer back to the book called Rich Dad, Poor Dad as the catalyst. This book was written by Robert Kiyosaki in 1997 and told the story of his 2 dads – his real father (poor dad) and the father of his best friend (rich dad) – and the ways both men shaped his thoughts on money and investing  My next guest, Dr. Peter Kim has been doing the same for some time now. He’s he runs the famous blog Passive Income MD, and Curbside Real Estate, which is a concierge service for physicians looking to buy real estate. He’s here to help me parse through a recent interview that real estate mogul Grant Cardone did on VladTV, which is a popular YouTube channel focused on the news in Hip Hop. In this video interview, Grant talked about his childhood, how he started in real estate and also how he quickly multiplied his holdings. It’s a very polarizing interview, look below for the embedded video to watch.   Embedded video:   Resources: The 10x Rule 4% Rule
January 21, 2020
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144 – DOTB VS Day 1 – Mindset to practice in the land down under

Hey all and welcome to Day 1 of the Virtual Summit, In this episode, we’re bringing back a guest from way back. From Episode 1 and the land down under - Dr. Carmen Brown is back to speak about living in Australia and New Zealand. Her episode is the highest downloaded episode for the podcast, and has been the spark that helped this show to gain traction with you all. Now a 10 year veteran of living in Australia / New Zealand, you’re going to hear more about the mindset hurdles she and her husband got past to live life on their own terms. Often times, we get caught up on “what I should do,” or “traditionally this,” but fail to realize those thoughts prevent us from finding true happiness. For Dr. Carmen and her husband, the road to happiness started was realizing that the status quo was unacceptable.    Resources: Confessions of a Dr Mom
January 20, 2020
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DOTB Virtual Summit & 2019 Recap

Hear about the DOCS OUTSIDE THE BOX VIRTUAL SUMMIT and a 2019 recap.
January 11, 2020
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142 – The Come-Up: Dr. Nancy Yen-Shipley finds her inner renaissance self

What’s good everyone!! This is the last “The Come-Up” segment for the year and it will definitely deliver. The Come-Up is meant to get you to take action by showcasing doctors who are early in their journey. Meet Dr. Nancy Yen-Shipley, an orthopedic surgeon who is on the path to being a doc outside the box. In addition to speaking, Dr. Nancy is very active on social media with her website and also serves as a team physician for the U.S. Ski and Snowboard team.  Whether you’re a premed student or a seasoned veteran doctor, there’s a lot you’re going to learn from this episode. Not only was she “weeded” out during her premed years at UCLA, she shares about her nontraditional path to medical school as well as the imposter syndrome she learned to leave in her rear-view window.   Resources: 3 Pieces of Advice from a Surgeon Low GPA
December 26, 2019
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141 – Locums 101 – A Primer on Locum Tenens with Andrew Wilner, MD

Do you need a separate license to practice aslocum tenens? Should I go with smaller vs. larger companies? What kind of cell phone plan should I get if I’m on the road a lot? I’m in the beginning of my career, can I still do locum tenens?   These are all questions that many of you might have while considering going into locum tenens for the first time. It can be frustrating or even scary to think of changing how you work when you’ve dedicated years in residency practicing one way. Let’s get real, how many of our attendings knew much about locums or even gave it positive reviews? Well on this episode you’re going to get a primer and history lesson on locums (Dat locums lyfe) from a physician who has been in this lifestyle since the early 80s. My guest is Dr. Andrew Wilner and he is the author of the book The Locum Life: A Physician’s Guide to Locum Tenens. And for anyone interested in locums, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS BOOK!   Resources mentioned in this episode: NALTO Lucidity Direct Nomad
December 23, 2019
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140 – Ask Dr. Nii – Should I get a MBA while in Med School

What’s good everyone, This Friday we’re answering a question about obtaining a MBA while in medical school. Also Dr. Renee updates us on her recent book launch for How Good Ol’ Dr. V Came to Be. We decided to level-up and jump knee-deep into a new business venture – stay tuned to find out what it is!
December 13, 2019
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139 – Dr Renee dishes on her new children’s book – How Good Ol Dr V Came to Be

What’s good everyone & Happy Holidays Dr. Renee joins me on this episode to discuss updates in our transition to our new place in New Jersey. The biggest update is that today, Dr. Renee is releasing her book How Good Ol’ Dr. V Came to Be. It’s a book for kids, parents and premeds. It is loosely based on Dr. Renee’s personal journey to becoming a doctor.
November 27, 2019
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138 – How owning real estate helps this physician couple live life on their own terms

What’s up and good everyone, When the podcast first started, I spent time driving home the notion of being a good steward with your money. This included saving more than you spend, paying off student loan debt, and using index funds for passive investing.  The famous book by Robert Kiyosaki Rich Dad Poor Dad helped the masses change their mindset from trading time for dollars, and embracing real estate as a driver of wealth. You can count me in on that group. Dr Renee and I are beginning our journey into purchasing multi-family homes and renting them out to develop an alternative stream of income. We’ll keep you posted.  The book also sparked the success of my next guests - Dr. Leticia and Kenji. They have worked very hard to build up a  portfolio of rental properties that is now allowing them to live life and practice medicine on their own terms. Taking an entire year off to travel - no problem! Picking up clinical shifts when they want to, not because they have to - they got this! So they came on the show to talk about how they started this amazing journey and how you can also. This episode is jam-packed with information and inspiration!!  In the intro of this episode, you’ll hear about their amazing course to help you get started on your journey with real estate. It’s called Zero to Freedom Through CashFlowing Rentals and yours truly recommends it (Full disclaimer: I am an affiliate and when you sign up for the course, it does help the show to grow). The course is made up of 6 modules and takes place over a 3-week span. This course is full of active learning, has a great community to keep you accountable, PLUS you get 5 CME credits also for completing this course - BOOM!! Registration for the course starts on December 2nd. Click here to learn more about this course!   Resources: Semi-retired MD Blog Primer on Real Estate Professional Status for Physicians Read this before you get started investing in cash flowing rentals The Life Coach School Podcast
November 25, 2019
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137 – Using food to end generational diseases in her community with Dr. Lauren Powell

What’s good everyone, I can’t believe it’s that time of year again. We’re in the holiday season and that brings celebrations, family events, and big dinner. Although the food is great, much of it isn’t very healthy. Is a Turduken healthy!?? Let’s be honest, some of the foods we eat or how we cook has been passed down through generations. It’s 2019 and a lot has changed with how we think about food and nutrition.  My next guest, who is Dr. Lauren Powell, has something to say about this. Dr. Lauren, also known as “The Culinary Doctor,” is a board-certified family medicine doctor. Her goal is to meet individuals at whatever stage they’re at on their health journey and end generational patterns of food-related diseases. Dr. Powell is serious about her goals. She’s meeting folks at live events with cooking demos, on television, podcasts and even with her Amazon Best-Selling book Food Essentials for the Busy Professional.   Things you’ll learn in this episode: How a close family member’s health scare shifted her focus to culinary medicine How busy professionals can eat healthier Tips to improve your social media How she answers #imnotjustadoc     Resources: Follow Dr. Lauren Powell – FB, LinkedIN, IG: @drlaurenpowell Dr Lauren Powell – Eating at a Hotel Buffet
November 18, 2019
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136 – The Come-Up: Dr. Eunice Park on becoming the doctor she wants to be

On this second installment of The Come-Up, you’re going to hear from a doctor who is on her way to becoming a doc outside the box. I met Dr. Eunice Park when I got invited by Physician CEO to speak to students several months ago. It was a big surprise to learn from Dr. Park that she was a listener of the podcast and actually learned about Physician CEO after listening to the podcast. A couple of weeks later, we chopped it up for a candid conversation of who she was prior to and after Physician CEO. She’s very honest, and I’m sure you all can learn something from her. Make sure you listen and share this with others!
November 7, 2019
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135 – “I see you Fear, now move out my way” with Dr. Jennifer Caudle [5-Minute Friday]

What’s good!! We’re hearing from Dr. Jennifer Caudle on this episode of 5-minute Friday. Dr. Caudle is formally trained in Family Medicine, and can also be found on multiple television networks as a medical consultant. On this episode, we’ll find out how an early lesson from her father helps her to always take action despite fear.
November 1, 2019
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134 – Ask Dr. Nii – 2 kids under 2 at home, Can I still do locums?

Dr. Nii & Renee answer questions related to locums work while having 2 young children at home, balance in medical school, and our experience working with Physician Assistants. We’re happy to answer your questions. Do not forget about Speakpipe, where you can leave a voice question. You can get to Speakpipe by going to and clicking on Blue tab on the right of the screen.  Thanks to Oats Overnight for sponsoring this episode. We’ve been using Oats Overnight for some time now and definitely recommend it to you busy professionals out there. With very little prep the night before, we’re talking waking up and getting a nutritious meal while in transit or even in sign-out. Use the code DARKO10 for 10% discount when making a purchase!!!!!    Don’t forget to join the community of DOTB Nation at:
October 28, 2019
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133 – From humble beginnings to America’s Family Doctor – Dr. Jennifer Caudle

What’s good everyone! Up next we have probably’s America’s busiest TV medical contributor – Dr. Jennifer Caudle. Dr. Jen is one of the most visible physicians in America and she appears in the homes of millions every week on TV and in print discussing health topics.  We’re talking CNN, FOX, HLN, Dr. Oz Show, and Steve Harvey to name a few.  She is a board-certified Family Medicine physician and currently is an Assistant Professor in Family Medicine at Rowan University School of Osteopathic Medicine. Dr. Jen dropped by to chop it up on her humble beginnings and how she’s become trusted inside and outside the exam room.    Things to pick up in this episode: The importance of seeing people who look like you to find inspiration The doubts she had about herself in medical school Her advice for getting a foot in the door with being a TV medical contributor What’s a show pitch and how she offers her pitches to TV executive producers How she answers #imnotjustadoc   Follow Dr. Caudle: Twitter Instagram YouTube To learn more about her swag:   Resources From This Episode How I Became A Medical TV Contributor   Don’t forget to join the community of DOTB Nation at: Check out our great sponsors: Physician CEO Set For Life Insurance
October 21, 2019
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132 – Your mind is what’s holding you back from your true potential!

What’s good everyone!! When I started Docs Outside the Box, I wanted to expose listeners to doctors thriving in non-traditional career paths. Just listening to episodes, might not be enough. I am learning that mindset plays a big part in our ability to take action, and also have positive energy in our lives. The fixed mindset keeps us from removing ourselves from toxic work environments, starting a podcast, or even taking a chance on a side-hustle we might be passionate about. I want to start introducing topics around mindset and habit – building into the regular schedule of this show. Nate Klemp, PhD, is an expert in this field and jumps on this show to talk about his NY Times Best-Selling book, Start Here: Master the Lifelong Habit of Wellbeing. This book is about learning that the same way we train our body for fitness, is the same way you can train your brain for wellness! The book is based on the Life Cross Training System that is currently being used by healthcare systems to help physicians battle burnout and obtain peak performance.  Things you’ll learn on this episode: Dangers of the “grind it out” mentality in health care The benefits of meditation What is gratitude How to manage attention and tension   Follow Nate Klemp: LinkedIn LIFE XT on LinkedIn Twitter   Don’t forget to join the community of DOTB Nation at: Check out our great sponsors: Physician CEO Set For Life Insurance
October 14, 2019
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131 – Keeping it 100 on Where Doctors Fit in Healthcare

What’s good everyone!! Dr. Mark Shapiro, Host of Explore The Space podcast, jumps on the hot-seat to talk about where the hell physicians fit in the current landscape of healthcare. Are we still in the center, or are we stuck riding the bench while the MBAs make all the decisions? Who knows?! We get real, raw, and even bring up uncomfortable topics not generally talked about. If you’re looking for a show where physicians, academics, journalists are talking about healthcare – then Explore The Space is the show for you. I’m a fan of Dr. Mark’s show and recommend that you put it on your playlist.    Resources: Dr. Mona Hanna-Atisha Extreme Ownership Crucial Conversations Redefining Perfection 
October 7, 2019
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130 – The Come-Up: Dr. Nana Korsah’s journey from burnout to Life/Finance Coaching

What’s good everyone! Welcome to a new series called “The Come-Up.” In previous episodes, I’ve mentioned that it can difficult to identify with a successful person’s journey, especially if they’re on Step 1000 (i.e. Oprah Winfrey, Jeff Bezos). If you got a chance to listen or even talk to someone who is on Step 5 would that make a difference in your life? I think so – I would find it really inspiring to see successful people as their “figuring it out.” That’s what this series is all about. Connecting you docs who are “figuring out” their life as a doc outside the box right in front of our eyes. These episodes are meant to be raw, emotional, cool AF and uplifting. The best part is – you can be apart of this conversation. I’m featuring listeners who will allow us to follow them through their journey, and be open to coaching. Our first guest is Dr. Nana Korsah, a former Nephrologist who has recovered from burnout, and now is a locum Hospitalist. She has a side gig as a life and financial coach for physicians who want to both pay off debt and live their life to the fullest.     If you’re interested in coming on “The Come-Up,” click here:   Follow Dr. Korsah: Wesbite: Email: [email protected]   Resources: The Total Money Makeover Susie Orman
October 2, 2019
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129 – Ask Dr. Nii – Locums while wife is doing IVF. Help!

This Friday, Drs Nii & Renee answer questions related to travel locum work, family and marriage. Specifically, how to handle traveling for locums work while spouse is undergoing in-vitro fertilization. Also, how do you remain “present” in family life while traveling for up to two weeks out of the month? You’ll hear an update on how Dr. Renee is handling maternity leave. Plus we’re sharing a review from a listener.
September 27, 2019
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128 – Doc Related… a comic strip so true…It’s funny!

What’s good everyone! Today you’re going to hear from Dr. Peter Valenzuela – the creative mind behind the comic strip Doc Related.” Doc Related is a comic strip with a satirical take on healthcare through the eyes of healthcare professionals. Think of Dilbert and the television show, The Office but for healthcare. You’ve probably seen his comic strips on numerous physician Facebook groups.   Not only is he a creative, he’s also made the transition into hospital administration and serves as a Chief Medical Officer (CMO) of a large physician group in California. Now, I’m not the biggest fan of corporate medicine, but Peter gives us a direct look into the life of a physician who serves as a CMO. Honestly, he has changed my perspective with this interview. For the residents and young attendings out there, this is an episode you don’t want to miss if you’re interested in what life is life in the Corporate Suite (C-suite).   Resources: ProWriting Aid   Follow Dr. Valenzuela: Twitter Facebook LinkedIn
September 23, 2019
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127 – Get what you deserve! The art of negotiation w. Kwame Christian

What’s good everyone! What is the use of knowing that “everything is negotiable” if you lack both the skills and confidence? Negotiation expert and host of the popular podcast Negotiate Anything, Kwame Christian, chops it up with me on today’s episode. Kwame is a business lawyer and the Director of the American Negotiation Institute. In this role, he conducts live negotiation and conflict resolution training sessions for organizations. We’re talking about the basics of negotiation in a way that you’ll find USEFUL. We go through scenarios that graduating residents will find themselves in with hospitals. Kwame gets surgical with this, and you’ll be fascinated by his ability to handle pretty difficulty situations. If you feel like negotiation is your weakness – this episode is for you!     Resources mentioned in this episode: Nobody will play with me How to talk so little kids will listen Salary Negotiation Guide
September 16, 2019
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126 – This Tylenol Pill Costs How Much?! Price Transparency & Advocacy with Dr. Marty Makary

What’s good everyone, Much like auto body shops, did you know that hospitals present different prices to individuals compared to insurance companies? You may think, “Yeah of course, hospitals present a more inflated bill to insurance companies!” Well, there’s evidence to show this is not the case. Price gouging and lack of transparency has been a major problem in the healthcare industry for decades. Dr. Marty Makary, author of his new book The Price We Pay, drops in to talk about this and the research he is currently doing to combat this issue. Dr. Makary is a surgeon, New York Times best-selling author, and health care expert. He is also a professor of Health Policy & Management at the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health. His areas of interest include the health care costs, overtreatment, the opioid epidemic, patient safety and the movement to make healthcare more transparent.   Resources Mentioned: Restoring Medicine Giving birth costs a lot. Hospitals won't tell you how much
September 9, 2019
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125 – Quit your way to a more fulfilled life!

What’s good everyone, I am very happy as a physician. But I’m not going to lie, there are things that people who are not doctors get to do that make me pretty jealous. One of them is the ability to have a career pivot. So many of my college friends have changed careers and sometimes I wonder “Could that be me?” My next guest is definitely not afraid to both ask that question and take action on it. Dr. Lynn Morski from the Quit Happens podcast joins me on this show to discuss how quitting strategically can be the pathway to a more fulfilled life. That’s right she’s a “Quitting Evangelist,” and she’s very honest about her pathway that has taken her through the tech industry, medicine, and also law.   Things you’ll learn in this episode: Why many avoid quitting How to make your resume/CV look good with multiple experiences in quitting How she helps doctors get over the stigma of quitting How she became a quitting evangelist She takes us through the steps of quitting strategically as physicians How she answers #imnotjustadoc   Resources: Oura Ring Book: Quitting by Design Lear more about Dr. Morski:
September 2, 2019
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124 – Meet the doctor making it harder for lawmakers to ignore science

  What’s good everyone… My apologies for the short break in the beginning of the month. Check out the beginning of this episode to find out what happened. On this episode, I’m chopping it up with Dr. Cedric Dark, the Founder and Executive Editor of Policy Prescriptions. Think of Policy Prescriptions as a cliff notes version of health policy research so that lawmakers can make bills based off actual evidence-based studies. Now at this for well over 10 years, Dr. Dark got his start while interning in Washington, D.C. and learning how much policymakers relied on politics and ideology. Not only will you learn more about Cedric, but you’ll also get a civics lesson on exactly how health policy bills on funded on a federal level. For those who want to get more on the front lines of advocacy, especially with social media – this episode is for you!   Things you’ll learn in this episode: How he developed in interest in Emergency Medicine What people in Washington, D.C. think about physicians His advice for clinicians looking to get into public advocacy How he answers #imnotjustadoc   Resources mentioned in this episode: Policy Prescriptions Mazie Foundation The Oregon Health Insurance Experiment   Follow Dr. Dark:   Twitter: @realcedricdark or @policyrx
August 26, 2019
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123 – My lack of faith lead to opportunity costs

What’s good! Things get real for me on this episode. I’m in the hotseat as Dr. Renee interviews the “Doc Outside the Box.” Starting late last year, I doubled down on clinical work. This included late hours, additional travel, and time away from my family. The show went on in terms of the podcast, but there have been potholes along the way. We’re going to cover everything from my decision to work more all to the opportunity costs I incurred due to that decision.   Themes covered: I don’t want my career to ruin my life What are opportunity costs Growth vs fixed mindset Worry about what others think   Previous episode mention: EP 101 – My wife hates my locums schedule
August 19, 2019
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122 – Stop stalling and use these 5 simple tools to grow your brand or business!

What’s good! One of the biggest challenges I face with being an entrepreneur is learning how to not be too focused on the minute details of my businesses. This is easier said than done, because, it involves creating systems and automation – things we definitely never learned in medical school. Sheryl (my amazing assistant) is jumping on the mic to share the tools she uses that helps me to scale my business ventures. This is a fun conversation, so listen up and take notes!!   Resources discussed in this episode: Gmail Boomerang AsanaToggl Zoom Loom Canva Smarterqueue
July 29, 2019
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121 – Docs should learn these lessons from NBA Free Agency

What’s up! You have got to be living under a rock to not know about the biggest free agency moves in the NBA this summer. On top of that, this class of free agents are the most talented we’ve seen in years. The elite players of the league have been making power moves and operating in ways to make sure their brand has a legacy. On this episode, Dr. Renee Darko and Kwesi Asamoah join me to discuss the money and branding plays of these NBA free agents!
July 15, 2019
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120 – Embracing Your Outsider Status [5-Minute Friday]

What’s good!! We’re hearing from The Crispy Doc on this episode of 5-minute Friday. The Crispy Doc is an anonymous physician personal finance blogger who joined us on Episode 117 to discuss how doctors can reclaim both their time and careers by grabbing control of their finances.  On this episode, we’ll find out how he uses one of his biggest weaknesses to get past his fears.    
July 12, 2019
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119 – What doctors can learn from business mogul Dame Dash

What’s good everyone! Dr. Renee is joining me on this episode. I decided to shake things up a bit and discuss something controversial. Damon “Dame” Dash is an American entrepreneur, record executive, film producer and is best known for co-founding Roc-A-Fella records. For a significant time, he served as Jay-Z’s manager and business partner. Several years ago, Dame Dash came on the popular radio talk show The Breakfast Club on Power 105.1 to discuss a new movie. To anyone who isn’t familiar with the talk show, it’s not your typical morning show and if you’re a guest, you definitely can’t prepare for the questions you will face on the show. Let’s just say it turned into a heated talk about employment versus entrepreneurship and other things you should listen to in your home and not at work. On this episode, Dr. Renee and I break down this conversation for you from a doctor’s perspective. There are mad nuggets that Dame drops about employment that we think you all can learn from and we go through each one by one. His thoughts are controversial, but this is Docs Outside the Box - and that’s what we do! Twitter The Ask Dr. Renee Show   Resources Mentioned: Dame Dash Full Interview at The Breakfast Club Power 105.1
July 8, 2019
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118 – Changing Specialty & Dealing with Criticism [5-Minute Friday]

What’s good!! We’re hearing from Dr. Nikki Ramskill on this episode of 5 minute Friday. Dr. Nikki, also known as “The Female Money Doctor,” joined us on Episode 115 to discuss why her patients are her target population for her personal finance writings. After listening to that episode, you learned that she did a major about-face and changed medical specialties. Even in the United Kingdom, this is a big deal and she talked about the critiques that came her way. On this episode she’s going to tell us the resources she used to finally make the decision and leave the haters in her rear-view mirror.   Resources discussed on this episode: Feel the Fear and Do it Anyway The Chimp Paradox
July 5, 2019
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117 – How to reclaim your time and life by controlling your finances!

What’s good everyone! I’m chopping it up with anonymous physician personal finance blogger Crispy Doc. We have similar immigrant and first-generation stories that led us down the path of becoming physicians. Taking safe jobs (i.e. teacher, engineer, physician) was an important way for first-generation children to establish their roots here in the United States. Crispy Doc shares his journey through burnout and how finally grabbing control of his finances got him on the road to fulfillment.   On this episode you’ll learn: How to figure out your retirement number How his family background made an impact on his journey through burnout How to shift your mindset with investing and take control of it His personalized advice to me on how I can get on that path to Financial Indepence How he answers #imnotjustadoc   Resources mentioned in this episode: Docs Who Cut Back Jordan Craig, MD The value of a Financial Advisor
July 1, 2019
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116 – His Rx for Fear Lies Within All of Us

On this episode, you’ll hear Dr. Steinour’s approach to getting past fear even in the most extreme of cases and conditions. Also, I share some exciting news about the podcast.
June 28, 2019
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115 – Healthy finances will lead to a healthier you!

What’s good everyone! My next guest is Dr. Nikki Ramskill – the personality behind the blog “The Female Money Doctor.” There aren’t as many physicians in the United Kingdom blogging about personal finance as in America, but her claim to fame is being the “first ever doctor in the UK to be blogging about money.” The blog has become popular in the UK and focuses on the money stresses that her patients suffer from. She comes off as relatable as she shares her journey through student loan debt, investing, and breaking the cycle of living paycheck to paycheck. On this episode, we’re going to learn more about the woman behind the blog. For example, what’s her personal approach to debt, and the mindset changes it took for her to change specialties from OB/GYN to being a General Practitioner.   Resources mentioned in this episode: Ann Wilson – The Wealthy Chef Curve Card You Need a Budget
June 24, 2019
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114 – Getting the ‘F’ out your comfort zone, and Live in the Now!

On this episode, I get to chat with a physician who’s splitting his time between expeditions in Antarctica and on the motorcycle race track. My next guest, Dr. Nicholas Steinour, is an Emergency Medicine physician currently practicing in Austin, Texas. Dr. Steinour’s mantra is “enjoy things that make you fully present in life,” and without a doubt, he is living a life outside the box. You’re going to hear about how he’s become part of a team of physicians that provide medical support to expeditions in the South Pole. We’re talking about caring for seal bites, sea sickness, and of course hypothermia. He’s also combined his childhood passion for motorcycles with medicine and provides medical care to various racing circuits that are in Texas.     Resources discussed: Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage
June 17, 2019
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113 – Lose the Weight, Gain the Habit with Dr. Shilpi Agarwal

On this episode we have Dr. Shilpi Agarwal, author of the book called The 10-Day Total Body Transformation: A Doctor's Guide to Getting Leaner, Cleaner, and Happier in Just 10 Days!  It is a guide that cuts through all the gimmicks, fad diets to give you easy to understand concepts and a 10-day simple plan to achieve the path to the lifestyle you are looking for! I read this book and it hit home on building healthy habits instead of focusing on doing the next exercise craze! I recommend this book for anyone who has difficulty with understanding how nutrition, sleep, and mindfulness work together. The best part of all - you won’t be bored by this book. Dr. Shilpi has a down-to-earth approach that makes it easy to relate to. Not only are we talking about her book, but Dr. Shilpi is also a regular contributor on Fox 5 in Washington, D.C. as well as numerous national media outlets.  Dr. Shilpi dropped major keys on her ascent from resident to being a regular on television and how you can do the same also.   Things you’ll learn in this episode: Who this book is for Organic doesn’t always mean more expensive How to use your hand for proper portion control How to pitch Television Producers to get on the air How she answers #I’m not just a doc   How to get in touch with Dr. Shilpi: Twitter Instagram Dr. Shilpi Website
June 10, 2019
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112 – Dr. Renee dishes on mommy guilt and resigning from her residency

What's good everyone! Ask and you shall receive! I've read all of your reviews and comments related to having my wife, Dr. Renee, back on the show. I brought her back into the studio so you can learn more about her as well as her unique view to practicing medicine as a mother.  Things talked about on this episode: How she helped her parents realize their dreams Why she resigned in her first year of residency Her thoughts on "Mommy Guilt" Why she calls herself the "Stay at home OB/GYN"
June 3, 2019
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111 – Mental and Emotional Hacks with Dr. Bonnie Mason [5-Minute Friday]

Dr. Bonnie Mason will be front and center on today’s 5 min Friday. Dr. Bonnie will be sharing the mental and emotional hacks she uses that allows her to overcome fear and inaction.
May 31, 2019
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110 – Learn to Become a Sought-After Speaker

What’s good everyone! On this episode Phylecia Jones joins me to talk about what it’s like to make a career centered on speaking to live audiences. She hosts a daily live show on Instagram and FaceBook called “Ask The Budgetologist,” where she’s giving advice on money, business, and life. Phylecia has made a name for herself as a sought-after motivational speaker, but now she also coaches others on solidifying their brand through speaking opportunities. Oh did I forget to mention her “outside the box” path to success? She has a college degree in Computer Science and a Masters degree in Systems Engineering and worked with the US Navy until retiring at the age of 36 to start talking about math, numbers, and money.   Follow Phylecia Jones: Twitter Facebook Instagram LinkedIn Keep Up with Mrs. Jones Gift:
May 27, 2019
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109 – I Hate My Job But should I really burn this bridge?!!

What’s good everyone! On this episode, Dr. Bonnie Mason (previously from Episode 18) joins me on how to properly handle difficult non-clinical situations. We’re talking about how to leave without burning bridges even though you absolutely hate your toxic job. By now, it’s pretty standard knowledge to have a lawyer review your hospital/employee contract. Dr. Bonnie has a hot take on whether you should allow your lawyer to take the extra step and negotiate on your behalf. You’ve heard of non-disclosure agreements (NDA), right? Okay, well have you heard of non-disparaging agreements?! Yup, they exist and I was shocked to hear about them also. This is an episode for everyone, whether you’re still a resident or a fresh new attending; there’s plenty of bombs being dropped by Dr. Bonnie. Follow Dr. Bonnie Mason: Beyond the Exam Room [email protected] Instagram Twitter
May 20, 2019
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108 – Balancing being a doc, family man, and podcaster [Q&A Episode]

What’s good everyone! I’ve been doubling down on my Instagram presence. Every Sunday, I give followers the opportunity to ask me questions about various topics. On today’s show I’m answering your questions from Instagram.
May 13, 2019
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107 – Strategy to get past fear with Dr. Berry Pierre [5-Minute Friday]

Here is some fresh insight from previous guest Dr. Berry Pierre (Episode 96) on the strategy he’s using to get past fear!    
May 3, 2019
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106 – How to get past fear with Dr. Carolyn McClanahan [5-Minute Friday]

Welcome back to 5 Minute Friday! On this episode, you will hear how a health scare forced Dr. Carolyn (Episode 102) to realize her mortality and never allow fear to hold her back.
April 26, 2019
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105 – Wealth and Wellness with The Physician Philosopher

It’s been three years since Docs Outside the Box debuted on the podcast scene. It went very fast and I have learned a lot during this time. Check out Episode 100 for the lessons learned during this journey. On this episode, we have former anonymous physician personal finance blogger - The Physician Philosopher. Like so many of his blogging counterparts, Dr. Jimmy Turner initially started out anonymous, but as of this year, he revealed his secret identity and hasn’t looked back since. I brought him on the show to discuss his philosophy towards personal finance. I’ve enjoyed his approach, which focuses on the WHY behind our personal finance decisions. We often learn more from our mistakes than our wins, and Dr. Jimmy is not different. It seems he’s very comfortable discussing how his past mistakes has set him up for big wins now and in the future. Resources: 3 Ways Financial independence Causes Harm Physician Financial Interview Series Living an Intentional Life: The Three Kinder Questions Book: The Physician Philosopher's Guide to Personal Finance: The 20% of Personal Finance Doctors Need to Know to Get 80% of the Results
April 22, 2019
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104 – Focus on Your Purpose to get Past Fear with Dr. Drai [5-Minute Friday]

We’re back with another 5 minute Friday! Take a listen to Dr. Drai’s short, but sweet take on how he handle’s fear and inaction.
April 19, 2019
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103 – How to work with a virtual assistant

Hi All, On this episode, you’ll get a glimpse into my new “team” approach with the podcast. Over the past several months, I’ve been consistently working with my assistant (Sheryl) to help with streamlining and systematizing my life as an entrepreneur. Rather than writing a long piece on working with virtual assistants, I decided to interview her so that you can see what our working relationship is like. For you all who are on the fence about hiring a virtual assistant, I think this conversation will bring down the anxiety and help you take action!   Resources: Upwork Virtual Assistant Savvies FB group
April 15, 2019
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102 – Financial Planning with Dr. Carolyn McClanahan, From MD to CFP

Today’s guest can not only save a patient’s life, but also advice on how well diversified the patient’s retirement portfolio is. Okay, maybe this is an exaggerated example, but it’s really not that far from the truth. She is Dr. Carolyn McClanahan, Director of Financial Planning at Life Planning Partners, a fee-only financial advisory firm. She completed her undergraduate degree at Mississippi University for Women and medical school at the University of Mississippi. After residency in Family Medicine at the Medical College of Virginia, she entered private practice and emergency medicine practice in Richmond, Virginia. After developing a passion for In this episode, we’re going to talk about how helping her significant other’s investments turned into a passion that led to her leaving medicine and practicing full-time as a certified financial planner (CFP). We’ll also hear her thoughts on medicine’s gender pay way gap, as well as her tips for a healthy relationship with your financial advisor. To learn more about Dr. McClanahan, please visit or you can email her at [email protected] Things you’ll learn in this episode: Going from MD to CFP How she helped her significant other with his investment The gender pay wage gap Tips for a healthy relationship with your Financial Advisor How she answers #Imnotjustadoc   Resources: NAPFA - Inbox Zero FollowupThen
April 8, 2019
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101 – My Wife Hates My Locums Schedule

What's up & April Fools' Day! My wife, Dr. Renee Volny-Darko, joins me on this very personal episode where we discuss how my locums schedule puts a strain on our relationship. A lot of times, locums is described only in positive ways - you rarely hear about the negatives of this lifestyle. In keeping with me being more transparent about juggling my career and path as an entrepreneur, I wanted to share this episode with you. 
April 1, 2019
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100 – The road from passion project to entrepreneurship

What's good everyone! It's a special episode for me because this Episode # 100!! On this episode, I'm talking about things that have stood in my way and I have gotten past on the road from passion project to entrepreneurship.
March 29, 2019
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099 – Handling Fear with Dr. Dianne Ansari-Winn [5-Minute Friday]

Take a listen to previous guest Dr. Ansari-Winn’s take on how she handles fear. She breaks down her process systematically and makes it easy for you all to replicate and propel yourself forward!! Check out her original interview on Ep 78 – The Doctor’s Life Podcast
March 15, 2019
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098 – Tools Needed for Better Youtube Videos with Dr. Afib [Tech Tuesday]

Welcome back to Tech Tuesday! On this second segment, we’ll be having Dr. Afib as he talks about tips on how to create good quality Youtube videos as well as the troubleshooting he had to do to get the perfect green screen. He was a previous guest on Episode 82 as well as a recent 5-Minute Friday. Share this with other people particularly those who are interested in creating YouTube videos or any other type of video for social media.
March 5, 2019
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097 – Slaying Public Speaking Fear with Charmaine Gregory, MD [5-Minute Friday]

On this episode of 5 Min Friday, I have a newcomer to the podcasting space. Dr. Charmaine Gregory hosts Fearless Freedom w. Dr. G where she and her guests talk about how they face fear and emerge victoriously from it. Besides being an amazing ER physician, wife, and mom – she’s also an alumni of my 10 Days to podcasting course. Check out this episode as she talks about using her podcast to slay her fear of public speaking!
March 1, 2019
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096 – Demand More for Your Career

In this episode, we have Dr. Berry from The Lunch and Learn with Dr. Berry Podcast - a platform that simplifies complex medical information for the common person to fully and easily understand. Dr Berry knew there was a disconnect between patients and physicians in terms of how medical knowledge was being relayed to patients. With more patients looking up their “diagnosis” via Google University, Dr. Berry started his podcast to bridge that void between him and his patients. He also is going to share his thoughts on the mental barriers that physicians place on themselves and how he was able to break past them. Things you’ll learn in this episode: What made Dr. Berry go from livestreaming into podcasting The hurdles of starting a podcast and its difference from bloggin How embracing change brought new opportunities for him Understand the medical disclaimers needed on medical websites and podcasts How he answers #Imnotjustadoc Things mentioned in the show: DOTB Episode 3 CoSchedule Kobe Bryant Laker Learn more about Dr. Berry Pierre and connect with him at: Website: Dr. Berry Pierre - Official Website Email: [email protected] Social Media: Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Pinterest Instagram Youtube Check out our Sponsors: Physician-CEO: Set for Life Insurance:
February 25, 2019
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095 – Getting past Imposter Syndrome w. Dr. Afib [5-Minute Friday]

What’s up DOTB Nation! Get ready to be pumped after hearing how Dr. Afib…a.k.a. Dr. Percy Francisco Morales was able to get past imposter syndrome and fully embrace being known as an “influencer” Check out his original interview on Episode 82
February 22, 2019
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Tech Tuesday – Audio

Yep, it's Tuesday. I can't recall the last time I released on a Tuesday. This is the first in a series of episodes to help you understand the tech behind creating a podcast episode.  This episode, I'll be covering the differences in audio quality between your laptop microphone, set of earbuds, and the fan favorite - ATR 2100.  Hope this helps. Share this with anyone else who you think would benefit from this.
February 19, 2019
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083 – Learning the Hippocratic Hustle

Dr. Carrie Reynolds, the host of the Hippocratic Hustle podcast, is back to share more about how podcasting has affected her life. Things you’ll learn in this episode: What attracted Dr. Carrie to start podcasting Her challenges with "solo" episodes The early stages of her podcasting journey Getting over fears and things that holds you back How she answers #Imnotjustadoc Things mentioned in the show: Hippocratic Hustle Miss Bonnie Koo, MD Headspace App Princess Diaries Michelle Obama Learn more about Dr. Carrie and connect with her at: Website: Hippocratic Hustle Social Media: Twitter   Check out our Sponsors: Physician-CEO: Set for Life Insurance:  
February 11, 2019
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5-Minute Friday – Forging your own Path with Jarret Patton, MD

Today you’re going to be hearing from Dr. Jarret Patton (Ep 70). His episode is one the highest downloaded shows ever! His story was shocking, sad, and inspiring all in one episode. He’s back on 5 min Friday to inspire you to take risks and think outside the box. This is a good don’t want to miss it
February 8, 2019
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Update 5.0

On this episode I discuss the major changes to the website and podcast.  Take a listen. Website: Email: [email protected] FB: IG: LinkedIn:
February 4, 2019
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5-Minute Friday – How to get past your Fears and Insecurities with Dr. Wendell Cole

What’s up everyone! Here is another great five minutes on how to get past your fears and insecurities. This Friday you’re going to be hearing from Dr. Wendel Cole who was a guest on Episode 55 and 61.
February 1, 2019
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082 – Branding with Social Media Websites

On this episode, I’m excited to talk to Dr. Morales a.k.a Dr. AFib! He’s a Cardiologist, Electrophysiologist and the creator of Dr. AFib. He specializes in treating thousands of patients with atrial fibrillation. Today, Dr. AFib is going to teach us the essential things we need to know about specialty websites, creating your own brand, how to increase your online presence and standardize everything, and also how to improve your social standing with your patients. Things you’ll learn in this episode: What inspired him to create Dr. AFib The medical liability concerns you should think about What is SEO, how he records his videos How he balances being a husband, a father, physician, and his alter-ego Dr. AFib How he answers #Imnotjustadoc   Things mentioned in the show: Dr. AFib   Learn more about Dr. AFib and connect with him at: Website: Dr. AFib Social Media: Facebook Twitter Youtube   Check out our Sponsors: Physician-CEO: Set for Life Insurance:
January 28, 2019
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081– Balancing Locums and Global Surgery

LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE ON: APPLE PODCASTS | GOOGLE PLAY | STITCHER | SPOTIFY I’m happy and excited to interview Dr.Suzanne Yoder about the global humanitarian work that she does. I watched her speak at the Global Surgery forum at the American College of Surgeons. By balancing locums, humanitarian work and her personal life - she's living life on her own terms. After this episode, you'll learn that there’s more to medicine than being a surgeon. Where you chose to spend your time and how you spend your time matters. Things you’ll learn in this episode: How she got introduced to Global Surgery Dr. Suzanne’s biggest challenges doing the work that she does How she managed the cultural differences practicing in countries outside of the United States The key to success for any public health program catering to a local community Financial issues and sacrifices she experienced being a locums doc How she answers #Imnotjustadoc   Things mentioned in the show: Community Coalition for Haiti Tripit App ACS Meetings   Learn more about Suzanne Yoder and connect with her at: LinkedIn Email: [email protected]   Check out our Sponsors: Physician-CEO: Set for Life Insurance:
January 21, 2019
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5-Minute Friday – Living a fulfilled life by acknowledging your fears with Taylor Brana, MD

LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE ON: APPLE PODCASTS | GOOGLE PLAY | STITCHER | SPOTIFY   Everyone gets scared at some point in their life, and that’s fine. It’s how you deal with it that matters. Learn to overcome your fears in this episode as Dr. Brana from The Happy Doc podcast shares what scares him and how he dealt with it in order to live a fulfilled life.   Learn more about Dr. Taylor Brana and connect with him at: Social Media: Facebook Instagram Twitter
January 18, 2019
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080 – From Heart Condition to Health Food Guru

LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE ON: APPLE PODCASTS | GOOGLE PLAY | STITCHER | SPOTIFY   Joining us on today’s episode of Doc Outside The Box is Dr. Rupy Aujla from The Doctor’s Kitchen - all the way from the UK! He’s a firm believer of the principles of healthy eating. He helps both his fellow doctors and patients to live a healthier and happier lifestyle while educating them on how to make good food. After being diagnosed with atrial fibrillation, he made a wise decision to finally change his diet and his lifestyle as a whole. Nutrition is a clinical tool that doctors and health professionals should have in their toolbox. Every patient deserves a doctor who talks confidently about food and medicine. Learn to cook your own tasty meal and lead a healthier lifestyle as you tune in on today’s #DOTB episode!   Things you’ll learn in this episode:   What made the push for him to go into medicine How he handled his heart condition and how his mother convinced him to take the healthy diet route How The Doctor’s Kitchen started Getting over that fear of not wanting to get in front of the camera What keeps him motivated Kitchen hacks and life hacks Gratitude as a habit How he answers #Imnotjustadoc   Things mentioned in the show: The Doctor’s Kitchen Books This is Water Speech by David Foster Wallace Gary Vee - Entrepreneur   Learn more about Dr. Rupy Aujla and connect with him at: Email: [email protected] Website: Book: Facebook: Instagram: Twitter: YouTube:   Check out our Sponsors: Physician-CEO: Set for Life Insurance:
January 14, 2019
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5-Minute Friday – Getting Over Your Fears & Lessons from Building FemInEM with Dara Kass, MD

LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE ON: APPLE PODCASTS | GOOGLE PLAY | STITCHER | SPOTIFY   What's up everyone. Starting off the New Year to big things and big breakthroughs! This is the first of many episodes featuring tactics to battle both fear and insecurity on the path to success!   This inaugural clip is from Dr. Dara Kass - creator of FeminEm!   Learn more about Dr. Dara Kass and connect with her at: Email: [email protected] Social Media: Twitter
January 4, 2019
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079 – Recap of FeminEM Idea Exchange 2018

LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE ON: APPLE PODCASTS | GOOGLE PLAY | STITCHER | SPOTIFY   On this episode of DOTB, I’m having Dr. Dara Kass the founder of FemInEM for the second time as we recap what happened on the recent FemInEM Idea Exchange Conference 2018. FemInEM is all about educating, inspiring and motivating people. It’s an organization that aims to address gender disparities in a positive way, empowering both men and women in order to achieve gender equality in the field of medicine. Listen on today’s episode of #DOTB and sign up for the next FemInEM conference this coming 2019!   Things you’ll learn in this episode:   Why people should come to the FemInEM Conference   What talks stood out for Dr. Kass The Behind-the-Scenes from the FemInEM Conference The momentum that drives Dr. Kass My experience as a speaker in the conference The upcoming FIX 2019 conference   Things mentioned in the show: FemInEM FIX FemInEM Idea Exchange 2019 FIX FemInEM Idea Exchange 2019 Speaker Application Rob Gore, MD - Top 10 CNN Heroes of 2018   Learn more about Dr. Dara Kass and connect with her at: Email: [email protected] Social Media: Twitter   Check out our Sponsors: Physician-CEO: Set for Life Insurance:
December 24, 2018
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078 – The Doctor’s Life Podcast

LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE ON: APPLE PODCASTS | GOOGLE PLAY | STITCHER | SPOTIFY On this episode of DOTB, I’m speaking to Dr. Dianne Ansari-Winn from The Doctor’s Life Podcast. I was on her show before and we did a collaboration together talking about the beauty and benefits of podcasting. She’s an anesthesiologist and a powerful physician development coach. She coaches doctors around stress and burnout, teaching them to have effective coaching conversations, and how to be coaches themselves so they could support each other. Medicine is hard work and physician burnout is rampant more than ever. Little by little our work is causing us harm. But how can we bridge this gap and go from physician burnout to physician wellness? Gain the knowledge to get you out of physician burnout now as you listen to today’s episode of #DOTB! Things you’ll learn in this episode: How she found her way and started helping other physicians Why she started “The Doctor’s Life Podcast” What you need  to know in finding a credible coach 3 Advice to get pass and out of burnout How she answers #imnotjustadoc   Resources: My Episode with Dr. Dianne: 3-2-1 Podcasting with Nii Darko, DO Stop, Breathe & Think Mobile App Zoom Doctor Heal Myself by Dianne Ansari-Winn, MD  (to be published next year) Reach her at: [email protected]   Check out our Sponsors: Physician-CEO: Set for Life Insurance:
December 17, 2018
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077 – Careers Beyond Clinical Medicine

LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE ON: APPLE PODCASTS | GOOGLE PLAY | STITCHER | SPOTIFY On this episode of DOTB, I’m talking to Heidi Moawad. A neurologist, medical writer, editor and author of the book Careers Beyond Clinical Medicine. She writes medical articles for Medscape and she also teaches undergraduate courses and writing courses that focus on scientific writing. The path to following what you love to do is no walk in the park. Depending on how dedicated and committed you are, you can build your skills and get to the point where people are reaching out to you for your expertise. Know what you really want and don’t be afraid to do what you love. You'll be inspired as you listen to this episode of Docs Outside the Box. Things you’ll learn in this episode: What led her to the digital media and behind the scenes path Successful stories about doctors who are doing cool things outside clinical medicine Advice for someone wanting to jump on the path outside medical practice What made her write her first book Careers Beyond Clinical Medicine Personalities she looks up to for inspiration and motivation Personal habit that helped her become more successful and a doc outside the box How she answers #imnotjustadoc       Resources: Careers Beyond Clinical Medicine Awakenings by Oliver Sacks   Check out our Sponsors: Physician-CEO: Set for Life Insurance:
December 10, 2018
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076 – The Happy Doc Podcast

LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE ON: APPLE PODCASTS | GOOGLE PLAY | STITCHER | SPOTIFY On this episode of DOTB, I’m speaking to Dr. Taylor Brana, the host of The Happy Doc podcast! He interviews professionals and doctors that provide inspiration, motivation, and energy to uplift others and improve their life. Being a doctor is indeed hard, but being happy and optimistic can make a big impact and difference. Changing your environment, the people whom you hang out with, what you read and who you listen to can change you as a whole. Get inspired, motivated, become happier and think outside the box as you listen on today’s episode of  Docs Outside The Box. Things you’ll learn in this episode: What Made Dr. Taylor start a podcast Reasons why he particularly chose podcasting over Youtube and other media platforms Dr. Neel and the Happy Doc team Meditation, changing your environment, technology, innovation and M.A.Y.A. His advice to his pre-med self How he answers #imnotjustadoc Things mentioned in the show: Crushing It –  Gary Vaynerchuk The Third Door-  Alex Banayan Dr. Neel Desai’s Book OI Connection Alexa The Magic of Thinking Big by David J. Schwartz Learn more about Dr. Taylor Brana and connect with him at: Website: Facebook: Instagram: Twitter: iTunes: Stitcher: Check out our Sponsors: Physician-CEO: Set for Life Insurance:
December 3, 2018
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075 – Why You Should Start Podcasting NOW!

LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE ON: APPLE PODCASTS | GOOGLE PLAY | STITCHER | SPOTIFY On this episode of DOTB, I’m interviewing Rana Campbell. A lifestyle entrepreneur hosting the popular podcast Dreams in Drive. She interviews successful and creative entrepreneurs who want to take their dreams out of park and into drive! With hard work and a lot of research, plus being committed to what she loves doing, she was able to launch her podcast. And from that point onwards she kept on building it up until it reached the level to where it is now. We’re talking her show being on the front page of Apple Podcasts, and being featured on so many “Best Of” lists in electronic media! Get your pen and notepad ready as Rana shares important lessons & tips on how to start your own podcast and why you should do it too! Things you’ll learn in this episode: How powerful podcasting is How she started and launched her own podcast The challenges and opportunities that can occur in podcasting Excuses you didn’t know you were making which hinders your growth The pitfalls and detours she encountered along the journey An interesting story about getting her guests Finding your niche and audience The 80/20 rule   Resources: MadameNoire Articles by Rana Campbell WC Cole Podcast Learn more about Rana Campbell - Blog, LinkedIn, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook Follow the Dreams in Drive Podcast - Website, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook   Check out our Sponsors: Physician-CEO: Set for Life Insurance:
November 26, 2018
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074 – Personal Finance from Dr. Koo’s View

LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE ON: APPLE PODCASTS | GOOGLE PLAY | STITCHER | SPOTIFY On this episode of DOTB we have Dr. Bonnie Koo from I featured her blog as one of my Top 5 favorite physician personal finance blogs to make you a doc outside the box. Caught up with her at FinCon 18 and talked about her going from being pre-med one day to living and making six figures in London the next. Although living her best life financially, she still had the urge to be a doctor. After medical school, Dr. Bonnie Koo did not let the huge student loan debt stop her from taking control of her life. She created her own personal finance blog called and also hosts Friends Talk Finance with Dr. Carrie Reynolds from Hippocratic Hustle Podcast. Things you’ll learn in this episode: How she didn’t fall into the cycle of living pay check to pay check The fascinating story behind her student loan debt payoff Why personal finances are so different for women compared to men Why she writes about Blended families, prenups and divorce How she answers #imnotjustadoc   Resources: White Coat Investor Book                                                      Never Split the Difference                                                      Docs Outside the Box Physician Podcast Directory   Learn More About Dr. Koo: Miss Bonnie MD Website Check out our Sponsors: Physician-CEO: Set for Life Insurance:
November 12, 2018
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073 – ER Doc by Day, Punk Rocker at Night

LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE ON: APPLE PODCASTS | GOOGLE PLAY | STITCHER | SPOTIFY What’s good everyone! On this episode we’re going to get a glimpse into the life of ER physician by day, and punk rocker by night – Dr. Daryl Wilson. That’s right one minute he’s saving lives in the ER, the next he’s spending time with his family, and by the evening he’s kicking his Vans sneakers in air with his rock group. This might be the most “Outside the Box” story featured on this show so far – and I’m so amped up to be apart of this. Things you’ll learn in this episode: How he balanced medical school with going on tour How he handled getting kicked out of the band His family’s support of him even though the music was foreign to them The difference interacting with patients versus interacting with fans How he answers #imnotjustadoc   Learn More About Dr. Wilson: The Bollweevils: Twitter: @bollwevils IG: @th_Bollwevils_chicago FB: The Bollweevils Check out our Sponsors: Physician-CEO: Set for Life Insurance:
November 5, 2018
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072 – Saber & A Stethoscope

LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE ON: APPLE PODCASTS | GOOGLE PLAY | STITCHER | SPOTIFY On this episode, my guest is Student Doctor Kamali Thompson who is a 4th year medical student at Robert Wood Johnson Medical School in New Jersey. I got her on the show to talk how she handles the craziness of medical school with being an amazing fencer! She’s got aspirations of making the Olympics in 2020 ya’ll. Kamali got started with fencing pretty late in comparison with other fencers. With hard work, persistence, and people believing in her she’s been able to be successful at all levels. Recently she added US National Champion to her resume and regularly competes for Team USA internationally. Things you’ll learn in this episode: How she got introduced to Fencing as a sport The difference between studying for medical school vs training for the Olympics Importance of role models Why she decided to get a MBA How she answers #imnotjustadoc Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Peter Westbrook Foundation Amanda Seale – Small Doses Podcast Nickii Franke – College coach Follow Student Doctor Kamali Thompson: Twitter: @Kamali_thompson IG: @dr.mali.malz   Jswiss Dedicate.LoveSomethin: Check out THE FREEDOM FORMULA FOR HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS VIRTUAL SUMMIT: More than half of physicians are burning out the and numbers are increasing...The SOLUTION can CHANGE LIVES forever. Find out more for FREE at THE FREEDOM FORMULA FOR HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS: Concrete Steps to Release the Overwhelm and Create the Freedom You Crave October 22-31st Here’s the link: Check out our Sponsors: Physician-CEO: Set for Life Insurance:
October 29, 2018
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071 – DOTB Update 4.0

LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE ON: APPLE PODCASTS | GOOGLE PLAY | STITCHER | SPOTIFY   On this episode, I talk hitting the big 4-0 and the mistakes I’ve made trying to be a doc outside the box! Side Note: FinCon19 will be in Washington, D.C. September 4 – 7, 2019 Interested in joining my 10 days to podcasting beta group? Check out to learn more.   Check out our Sponsors: Physician-CEO: Set for Life Insurance:
October 22, 2018
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070 – From the Back of a Paddy Wagon to Redemption

What’s good everyone! I’m talking with Dr. Jarret Patton. He is going to be talking about being on top of the world one day and losing almost everything the next. We’re talking paddy wagon and a lengthy trial folks! On this episode you’re going to learn about falling from grace, redemption, ad finding your gifts even when you think you’re at rock bottom. Dr. Patton keeps it 100% on this episode and you definitely don’t want to miss this one!!
October 1, 2018
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069 – Ghana Taxi Confessionals

This episode was recorded in the back of a taxi/uber in Ghana. We’re apart of this great organization called International Healthcare Volunteers (IHCV), which has an annual medical mission to Ghana.  We were on our way to join the rest of our team at Lekma Hospital in Teshie. Things you’ll learn in this episode: Why we do medical humanitarian work in Ghana The “why” behind paying off our student loans The hardest part of medical humanitarian work
September 24, 2018
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This Doc is Disrupting the Deodorant Biz

When you think of disruptor, I bet the last thing that comes to mind are underarm or body odor products. My next guest is Dr. Shannon Klingman, and disrupt the deodorant industry is exactly what she’s aiming to do with her product Lume.
September 17, 2018
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067 – Chronicles of Women in White Coats

Thanks for tuning back in. On this show I’m interviewing Drs. Amber Robins and Nina Luma, two of the authors from the book The Chronicles of Women in White Coats. It’s an anthology book of 20 women physicians that gives you a peek into their personal and professional lives while highlighting their roles as mothers, wives, caregivers, daughters, and best friends.
September 10, 2018
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066 – I’m not just a doc. I’m a fashion designer

Welcome back everyone. First episode of September. Where has the year gone so quickly!??! On this episode I’m speaking with Dr. Katie Deming, Board certified Radiation Oncologist who is also a successful fashion design. He label is called MakeMerry and it focuses on creating comfortable yet stylish intimates for women who suffer from sensitive skin.
September 3, 2018
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From Doctor to World Renowned Photographer

Today’s episode is 2 years in the making. On this episode, I’m chopping it up with Dr. Zun Lee who is a world-renowned photographer and self-described visual story teller. We chatted about his transition from the clinical physician world, to corporate healthcare management, to now as full-time photographer.
August 13, 2018
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062 – Andre Young vs. Dr Draion Burch

Andre Young vs. Dr Draion Burch. By now I’m sure most of you have heard about the case between Andre Young (a.k.a. Dr. Dre) vs Dr. Draion Burch! On this episode I’m interviewing his lawyer, Andrea Evans, to discuss the specifics of the case.
July 16, 2018
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About Docs Outside The Box

This podcast looks into the minds of cutting-edge and innovative doctors. You won't find these stories in any medical textbook. You're getting real, live insight from men and women pushing the envelope beyond medicine.


Nii-Daako Darko, DO, MBA, FACS

Nii-Daako Darko, DO, MBA, FACS

My name is Nii Darko and let me get real with you. As a kid, I always wanted to have an impact on people or be larger than life. I thought about becoming an astronaut, athlete, lawyer, or doctor. It wasn’t until the Cosby Show that I knew what I wanted to be. A successful doctor with a beautiful wife, great kids, and lives in Brooklyn… What more could a regular kid from Queens, New York want?

After getting the degrees, credentials, and certifications, I realized that my life was far from a TV show. As a doctor, not only was I not in complete control over my life, but I also hadn’t explored other talents I knew I had. I was in a box.

After a year of doing locums work, I had met so many doctors making moves outside of traditional medicine. There were doctors who did medical humanitarian work in war-torn places of the world, others running their own businesses, and some on TV.

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